(Closed) Thoughts on HP6 (*warning* possible movie spoilers ahead)

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Post # 3
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2009

Oh, I am right there with you Miss B. I am soooo tired… and yet I feel as if it’s worth every second of yawning! Now you have to understand, I’m a HUGE fan of the movies, even though I’ve never read any of the books. Huge fan as in, to me, Harry, Hermoine, Ron, Snape, Malfoy… they are all real people to me. I’ll never meet them, and I know this, but somewhere, somehow, they are real. Now that being said…

OMG OMG OMG!!! How could Snape do that???? I always thought he was just a hard-ass with a secretly soft heart, how could he do that to Hogwarts? Dumbledore trusted him, just like HP said… I want to believe in my heart of hearts that Snape really isn’t a bad guy.

I feel like I just watched a 2 and a half hour preview… I feel like there is so much more, and I missed it! And who the heck is R.A.B., and why does he have a piece of Voldemort’s soul? Why would anyone want a piece of the dark lord’s soul? I feel like I have so many questions, and no answers! Like the cave Dumbledore took Harry to… why that cave? What was that place? And why would Voldemort chose Malfoy? What does Bellatrix Lestrange really have to do with anything? Why aren’t Hermoine and Ron "snogging" yet? (That’s such a cute word!) Oh, and in OoP, the whole POINT was that Voldemort was back… and they don’t show him once? What is he up to? Ahhhh!!!

I feel so emotionally drained today. LOL

Post # 4
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2009

I’m bumping this… I know there are more bees out there who watched it last night! ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 5
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

Miss Snowflake — I take it you haven’t read the books. Some of your questions are clearly emphasized in the book (and may not be clarified in the final movie either). A few answers that are pretty important: Bellatrix is Narcissa (Malfoy’s mother)’s sister and for what it’s worth Voldemort’s ‘love’ (or as human companion he can have). Also, the cave was actually a cave that Voldemort took a few kids from the orphanage when he was young. That was actually pretty important because it means that Horcrux’s are in places that were important to Voldemort. As far as "where is Voldemort?" all those things in the beginning… the tornados, the bridge collapsing, etc is essentially his work. Voldemort is hiding low and the Death Eaters are out on the rampage. He "chose" Malfoy simply because he was Lucius’s son. If you saw the paper headlines in the beginning, you will see that Lucius is in jail so basically Draco "replaced" him… but in the book they make a point to say that Voldemort expected Draco to fail and it was basically punishment for the whole family. Phew, I think thats the biggest points from the book that were neglected in the movie!

The rest of my post is serious full of spoilers though but I am DYING to talk to someone about this!

As far as my thoughts. I loved loved LOVED the movie. Best yet, by far!!! There were two things that kinda bothered me: 1 – The Burrow getting burned. That never happened in the book and seemed kind of irrelevant to the movie (they never commented about it later or anything… wth?) 2 – Fleur and Bill’s relationship. This is pretty important for the final book in several places (the wedding… shell cottage). I can’t believe they left that out!

However, the WHOLE entire part with Draco was BRILLIANT. Tom Felton ROCKED in this role. So believable… you could really see his pain and agony in the "assignment". He became so real in this movie. 

And even thought I knew the end, I BAWLED like a baby basically from the cave on. When Dumbledore was talking to Draco and Draco says "He’ll kill me!" I was literally convulsing in tears trying not to make noise! Then when Snape hushed Harry it was even worse. 

So good! I wonder if I can convince my Fiance to go again when he gets back from his Out of Town work assignment!!!! Yay!

Post # 6
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2009

Sigh, I know, I should read the books… but when I haven’t been wedding planning, I’m in school full time, and I just never found the time to read them! Maybe I should start with HBP, and then read Deathly Hallows… I just feel like I watched a really long movie trailer! But thanks for clearing up a few points for me, some things TOTALLY make more sense now!

I totally agree, I really liked Draco in this movie… Felton seriously has an awesome career post-HP ahead of him. Dangit! Now I feel like I need to read the books… and plan my 3-week-away-and-counting wedding! AH!

Post # 7
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2009

I loved it.  I loved how they captured the emotion, suspense, and darkening of the plot.  I cried, cried, cried when youknowwho dies. 

Despite what others say, I loved how much they included about everyone growing up–the emotions of dating, etc.  It made the progression more real, because that’s what 16 year olds think about!

I’m not a movie reviewer or Harry Potter freak, but made it in my top two of the HP movies!

Post # 8
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2009 - St. Thomas of Villanova Church & the F.U.E.L. House

Saw it.  Disappointed.  I was really bugged by how much it deviated from the text, how little they got into the Dumbledore/Harry relationship and the details of the horcruxes, and how much they left out (like what the other objects are/might be!).  Wondering how the heck they’re going to cover this stuff in Deathly Hallows 1 and 2.

Anyone else not thrilled with the film?

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

@lattelove — I agree about the emotions of growing up. For me, the books are meant to be read as you grow up .. meaning a 10 year old really shouldn’t read all 7 in two weeks because the content matures as the story does.

@bruschetta — I thought they did a pretty decent job of what the Dumbledore/Potter relationship (with time constraints in mind). I somewhat agree about the Horcruxes… like how is Harry going to know about the other objects? But – I just can’t shake off the thing with the Weasley house… and Harry & Ginny in the field… So random! Oh and I thought that they should of done a little more with Lupin and Tonks’s relationship as well as Bill & Fleur. 

Really though, I think it stayed just as much aligned with the books as the rest of the movies did! 

Post # 10
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: September 2018

I agree with Bruschetta, I wasn’t the most thrilled with this one. I still enjoyed it a lot, but then I had to hear my Fiance rattle off a laundry list of everything that was left out. He’s not a big reader so seeing the whole paring down the plot for the movie thing is new to him I am used to seeing this happen to books I love, and I actually think the HP movies generally do a really good job deciding what to take out and what to leave in, compared to a lot of other book adaptations.

It really didn’t bother me at all that they left out the Bill/Fleur or Tonks/Lupin stories. What I am wondering for the last movies is how they are going to deal with Dobby’s role. When they started making the movies they cut him out pretty early, not knowing that he was going to be so important later.

I totally understand why they left out the big Hogwarts battle with the Death Eaters… they didn’t want it to be too redundant with so much of the last movie going to be battle scene. But, I thought it was a silly choice to have the Death Eaters come to Hogwarts at all if they were just going to watch Dumbledore die and leave. They could have saved some time just doing that scene with Draco and Snape. Then they would have had a bit more time for the penseive stuff to build the Dumbledore/Harry relationship as well as a lot of what they left out re: young Tom Riddle was pretty crucial stuff.

Post # 11
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

See my argument for Bill & Fleur is that their relationship is so important in the final book. The wedding getting crashed… Shell Cottage as a "safe haven"… not to mention it REALLY explains how dangerous Fenrir Greyback really is… in this movie they didn’t really outline how truly important he is (explaining he is the reason Lupin is a werewolf and, in turn, Bill).

I hope they can add those details into the final movie as one of the best parts of the last book is how just about everyone who was mentioned in the first 6 books makes an appearance at some point or another. It would suck if Fleur wasn’t included. 

Post # 12
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2010

we’re off to see it in 2hrs… what, the Burrow and Bill & Fleur…. geez i hate directors/script writers that stuff around with novels. its a best selling novel for a reason so why change the ********* storyline!!!!

 

 

Post # 13
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2010

ok…. seen it and left somewhat disappointed

whats with the 15 second spot the characters moments…. oh look theres Nevile (what the heck, he was Slughorns waiter) oh look, there he goes.   oh look, theres Mr Weasley oh look, hes gone too – same as Mrs Weasley. oh look, theres Hagrid but there he goes not to be seen again…. i felt like they all had their 15 second grab to get them in the screenplay and that was it – heck, Lavender was almost the star of this movie.  and i would have liked to have seen Draco suffer with is decision a bit more (hence the moaning mrytle scene in the book)

oh, and i dont get the point of burning the Burrow scene at all – what was the point?

 

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

I think they did the character "spots" to keep them in the movie. For example, Neville is pretty important in Deathly Hallows so they needed to keep him relevant. Hagrid just didn’t have as much a role in this story as the others, nor the Weasleys. So that didn’t really irk me too much.

Yeah, I still can’t get over the Weasley house scene. SO random… I literally was looking around the theatre trying to see if anyone else thought it was weird because I was so confused.

Post # 15
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

I know I’ll bawl when "he" dies.  I cried and gasped (along with my son) when we were listening to it on cd during a long trip. 

We both "grew up" with these characters.  My son thinks she’s such an amazing writer.  There was a cool show on travel channel last night "the real world of harry potter" and showed where JK might have gotten her real life inspiration for locations, characters, and scenes.  Even the school! (it’s in scotland and hundreds of years old and its founder was a REAL wizard!) 

Post # 16
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: October 2009

I enjoyed the movie, but I can imagine that if you haven’t read the books, it could be really confusing.  They left out a lot of information that I thought was really important (among other things, that understanding Voldemort and his history and how he thinks is the key to stopping him), and sets up the finale.  I’m not sure how they’re going to explain in the next movie how Harry knows what things are horcruxes since they left out all of the memories and the history.  Also, the more I think about the ending, the more it bothers me.  I know they’re going to have a long battle scene at the end of the final movie, but I always felt that the battle scene in book 6 set the kids up as resistance fighters and not just as students.  I also think that not immobilizing Harry as they did in the book made him act out of character, because, even though he gave Dumbledore his word that he would do as he said, I find it really hard to believe that he would choose to stand there and watch him die when he could move and do something about it.  And the missing funeral…. I just found the ending in the book so much more emotionally powerful than the movie.  Maybe I was expecting too much since I loved the writing at the end of the book!  I did like the movie itself, but I just wish I knew why they made the story choices they did!  And I agree about the Burrow.  It didn’t make much sense at all.  The whole story just felt a little rushed to me.  I wonder if there are a lot of deleted scenes.

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