(Closed) Huffington Post article about diamonds and "illusion"

posted 9 years ago in Rings
Post # 17
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Busy bee

What happened, why did the tone turn all disapproving the last few posts?  People like what they like, the end. 

Post # 18
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

We bought my ring because I want to wear it everyday for the rest of my life…not make money off of it one day.  It’s not like a stock that I hope to sell for a higher price, it’s symbol of the commitment we have made to one another, so in my opinion, it’s worth every penny paid.

Post # 19
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Busy bee

I agree with this article completely. Diamonds are not my style, both because of the blood dimond and environmental issues and because I don’t care about wearing thusands of dollars on my finger. I don’t spend a lot of money on material things and I don’t think of this any differently. Our love doesn’t have a price tag requirement.

I’d much rather invest that kind of money together and watch it grow for our future ;). That’s more exciting to me.

Post # 20
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

Yes! We opted for Diamonique from QVC.  The stone has a lifetime warranty, and it looks completely real.  And it cost less than $100!  I could buy a new one every year for my whole life for less than the cost of what many people pay for a diamond engagement ring!

Post # 21
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

He has some good points and it was interesting/funny to read it from a man’s perspective! I think a lot of what he said, most people know already though. He just laid it out in a very frank way! Thanks for sharing!

Post # 22
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Busy bee

I have to admit, I have just recently heard about asha, moissanite, and diamonique and if they are sparkly, I want them too lol

Post # 23
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

Like so many other things in life, it’s a personal choice.  I say if you love diamonds and want to have one (or multiple) and that will make you happy, then go for it! On the other hand, if you think that diamonds are over-priced and/or you’re not really that big on them, you don’t HAVE to have one.  Diamonds are nice, but not required, and I think the choice to have them or not is fine either way as long as you don’t criticize others for making a different choice than yours.  Personally, I only have pave diamonds and a sapphire (which still isn’t as big as the diamonds in most ladies’ engagement rings), but before I got this ring, Fiance was considering buying me a diamond ring and I would have loved that too.  For me, it just wasn’t about the price or the gemstone–I just wanted something beautiful with a lot of sentimental value, which is exactly what I got!

I think the argument about diamonds being terrible investments because of their resell value (or the lack thereof) is stupid, though.  I mean, if your soon-to-be-husband gives you a ring, I’m sure your first thought isn’t, “How much can I sell this for later?”  The idea is to try to keep the ring (and the guy) for as long as you possibly can!  The very thought of ever selling my ring (for ANY reason) is a sad one indeed.  My ring was a gift from the heart of the love of my life, and I intend to treasure it as such!

Lastly, engagement rings, whether they have diamonds or not, can be expensive, cheap, or even free.  It really doesn’t matter as long as the bride is pleased with it and the groom didn’t go into debt over it.  People are free to spend their money on whatever they like (as long as they can actually afford it) because at the end of the day, they’re the only ones who can decide whether or not the ring was worth what they paid for it, and I think most couples would agree that it IS.

People are free to make their own decisions. ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 24
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

This article sums up every reason why I don’t have a diamond engagement ring. My scientist self was far too logical to fall for the romance of the ad campaign.

Post # 25
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

@MoonlightRose:  You’d be burprised how many Bees i’ve seen list the investment value as a reason for the diamond choice here, though. People are quick to dismiss it in this thread, but it’s something i’ve seen quite a lot over the last few years here!

Post # 26
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@crayfish:  Yes, I would be very surprised.  That’s strikes me as being really sad. ๐Ÿ™  I treasure my ring for the sentimental value, not the price.  I hope to wear my ring for the rest of my life and thought most other ladies would too.

Post # 27
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

The article is true 100%.  But I feel like I grew up in a generation raised by those who were born believing in the De Beers hype.  Now a marketing campaign has become part of tradition.  So were do we go from here?

Post # 28
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

Meh, I actually didn’t find his article that interesting because he didn’t really have any new ideas. In fact, his 7th reason wasn’t even a reason it was a what-if statement. He is working on the assumption that if a guy gives you a diamond ring it is just to shut you up, and that can go for any type of e-ring, not just diamond. If a guy gives you a “shut up” ring he should probably be dumped, but that certainly isn’t a reason why diamonds are a “waste” of money. My main fault with him is that he works mainly from assumptions, as if people who buy diamonds cannot think for themselves. So lets take his 7 reason’s and pit them against a real person, me.

1) It isn’t an ancient tradition: Okay? If I were to do something just because it was tradition then there would be a lot of things I should be doing… I wanted my diamond ring because only a diamond offered what I wanted in my ring. I wanted a diamond with an inclusion. Yes, other gemstones have inclusions, but I wanted a DIAMOND with an inclusion.

2) Diamonds aren’t an investment: What? Really? No way!? I totally got this ring so that it could grow in value and then I could sell it in 50 years when it was worth 5000x more than what it is now. Yeah right. This is MY ring and MY special diamond. Like hell I’m giving her up. I don’t care if she tripled in price. Her sentimental value to me is more important than monetary worth. My mom paid $75 to get a HAND PRINT of mine in a slab and to get it framed. That is $75 she’ll never get back.

3) The Diamond market is a shark tank and no matter how much you research, you’re more than likely going to get screwed: This is working under the assumption that people cannot think for themselves and are instantly blinded by bling. Yes, some people will get screwed, but others won’t. Fiance and I specifically looked for a diamond with an inclusion (long story…) because that is what we wanted. We looked at over 100 diamonds and we made our call without the help of a dealer. All the dealer did was show us the diamonds that met our specifications. All Fiance had was ONE college class that studied gemstones, and did a week on diamonds. We picked out a diamond we were happy with. No shark tank influence here. By the way, ever heard of sleezy new/used car dealers?

4) Spending 1-2 months salary on a ring is impractical, and a poor financial move when starting your lives together: Weddings usually cost more than people’s engagement rings, I know mine certainly is (in fact, I’ve already spent more money on my wedding than my engagement ring). If in 5 years I’m wishing I had more money, my first thoughts certainly won’t be going to my engagement ring (which will be worn DAILY). It’ll be going to the money spent on the wedding/wedding dress. By all practical means weddings are a waste of money too. But if we’re going on a waste of money, I’d like to throw in houses with granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, brazilian cherry wood hard wood floors, extra triple ply toilet paper, sports cars, and the list could go on! Regardless of what “extravagance” you spend your money on people will always find a way to say it is a waste.

5) Men don’t have to waste a ton of money to prove their manhood. Mark Zuckerberg didn’t! Okay, first off Fiance doesn’t really care about the guy who created Facebook enough to model his life after him. Also, guys have been spending a ton of money on rather pointless things long before diamonds were the “it” gem. This “reason” can apply to so many more things than just a diamond. But if the guy wants to buy a diamond ring, then it really isn’t a waste to him now is it?

6) Women don’t need a man to waste a ton of money on you to prove he loves you. Again, working on the assumption that women feel that the engagement ring symbolizes the amount of love your guy has for you. And again this could refer to more than just diamond engagement rings. There are other gemstones out there that do cost more than some diamond rings.

7) A diamond ring is just a shut up ring. Once more, working off assumption, and I’ve already addressed it in one of my previous comments.

All in all, what is a waste to some, isn’t a waste to others. He stated his opinions and sadly tried to work off assumptions with great failure. Yes, some of what he says holds true (the De Beers comments for one) but trying to use these 7 reasons why buy diamonds is a waste was IMO a waste of his time. He brought nothing new or creative to the table, and simply respun old arguments to make his article.

 

(Seesh that way long!)

Post # 29
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Blushing bee

I know people around here think the diamond subject is like the dead horse that people keep unearthing to beat. (ew lol) But truly its still relevant. Before I stalked this place for 2 to 3 years I was on of those people that thought you juts show up to a jewelry store and pick the diamond out. I know my husband thought that and thank GOD I didnt let him do that. Seeing ya’lls comments, posts, pics and so on here have done me a great service and I know other lurkers wont dig up old threads past 3 or so pages.. so truly.. its relevant and a huge help.
And I gotta say.. Im a engagement ring junkie and go ape shit (pardon my french) when our clients come in and have a ring on that finger, regardless of what stone is set in it. 

Post # 30
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

I own a moissanite, but I certainly don’t feel any more smart or ethical than a diamond owner. More flexible, maybe..? But in the end getting a clear e-ring is important to me so that people can tell that I am taken forever, and because I simply love the stone. If diamond meant something to me, as a family tradition or otherwise, I wouldn’t feel foolish for owning one. My ring, truthfully, costs about as much or more than many diamonds on this forum (and I don’t say this to be rude or presumptious in the least!!), so from the saving aspect, I wasn’t really being any more smart or kind to my BF for choosing it.

I’m just excited that I should be getting my ring soon, and I’m super excited to see how I’m proposed to! Yay for being with the one you love!

 

Post # 31
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

@Metalkisses:  So agree! I think is sucks that bring up the topic always sends people into a frenzy. I so do NOT hate on people for wanting a diamond! The heart wants what the heart wants ๐Ÿ™‚

But I’m just glad that I found out about alternatives here, because it has made me a very happy woman. I hope that we can keep the population informed so that they can make the decision for themselves.

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