(Closed) Huffington Post article about diamonds and "illusion"

posted 9 years ago in Rings
Post # 47
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Wannabee

unfortunately, for anyone that says something like “it’s all about what makes YOU happy” and “to each his own” that is a person displaying no humanity or reguard for the human condition. people are dying for a “birght shiny ring that makes you smile”. it’s pretty much deplorable that people would say something like that knowing what that has done to the environment AND to fellow human beings. there is no gurantee yours is a blood diamond but to take that chance is…well, beyond my comprehension. my boyfriend bought me 2 diamond tennis bracelets. the first of which i lost 3 years ago. when i started doing diamond research he happened to buy me another on to replace it around the same time and i wouldnt accept it. i wouldn’t be able to sleep at night and i think the diamond industries success and the horrible things that go on are solely due to the people who continute to support it. it’s shameful and you should shoulder the responsiblilty if you wear a diamond “proudly”. 

i am NOT perfect by any means, nor am i professing to be but i try as hard as i can to consider the earth and other human beings and for me, to know this information and still defend your actions by say “but it’s what i wanted!” or “it’s so shiny” is plain wrong.

Post # 48
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1075 posts
Bumble bee

I just got moissanite because it was more affordable, still sparkly, and (for the most part) extremely durable. HEEEEY ya.

Would I have accepted diamond? Of course. But I didn’t want Fiance to have to make payments on something, and I didn’t want it to break the bank.

I love diamonds! I love moissanite! And garnet. And blue topaz. And cornflower blue sapphire. And peridot. I don’t care what it is…I just like pretty things, lol.

 

(Also: for people that get upset when someone has diamond because of the whole ‘blood diamond’ issue…I know most, if not all, of the girls I’ve seen on WB ensure that their diamonds are conflict free. And even if they didn’t require that…I can’t fault them for that. I use products every day that are probably harmful to others to make. The End.)

Post # 49
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1131 posts
Bumble bee

I do own a diamond and I still agree with the article. to be honest I could have cared less if it was a diamond, mossy, white sapphire, or whatever, I just wanted a sparkely clear stone so it would go with anything. Diamonds are beautiful, no one can argue that. if it makes you happy it makes you happy… but I think before someone decides what they want they need to carefully examine thier life priorities. Us spending less than one months pay for my 1.5 ct. custom made diamond ring and band were totally worth it to me. Other similar rings that I like would have cost several months of pay, would have not still been of the same price years later and would have just been show pieces, that, i believe is not worth it. Its all about inward feeling about your ring, not who is going to comment about it at the post office. 

Post # 50
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457 posts
Helper bee

@ms-k3:  So what are your thoughts on platinum, now that a couple dozen people were recently killed in South Africa? Or gold, which when mined is also bad for the environment? Or clothes and products that come from China, for that matter?

Saying girls who love their diamonds have no regard for human life or humanity is beyond ridiculous, and won’t get you a lot of friends on this site. Please keep your opinions to yourself if they’re so negative and judgemental.

 

Post # 51
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Sugar bee

@ms-k3:  From the article:

“I have consciously left out of this list any arguments about immoral practices in the diamond business (i.e., blood diamonds, unfavorable working conditions, and child labor). The odds of buying an actual blood diamond in developed countries are extremely low. There are checks and balances in place that would make it extremely risky for a dealer to sneak something in illegally.”

Your comments truly are uncalled for. My wearing a diamond is not “plain wrong” and since I did my research before purchasing a diamond, I have no issues sleeping at night. You have NO idea where it came from, if it’s ethically sourced, from Canada, etc. Keep your judgements to yourself.

Post # 52
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Wannabee

The reason I bought up the ethical issues surronding diamonds is because to me, it is the most important issue. If someone wants to buy a diamond simply because they have been trained to believe that it is what is acceptable, that is fine by me. My major issue come in when it involves human life and the environment. 

I don’t know if you noticed but I did mention that I was NOT perfect but I try my best to be conscienous of things like where I buy my clothing and food (fair trade) and I don’t wear jewlerly in general (I will only wear an engagement ring) becuase it is not really my thing. I am not looking made a lot of virtual friends, love. I just saw the post and thought I would share my imput. The fact that it is making people so upset makes me think you may have a bit of a guilty conscience. Just an observation…

And one more thing, I spoke to an real jeweler in my area, and while I cannot say this is true of jewelry stores everywhere, he told me NO jewelry stone can say with certainty that they have not sourced a “blood diamond” because, as logic should tell you, they were not there in person. of course they tell you it is ethically mined, ummm duh. it’s a business and the name of the game is money.

I have been on here for a few months now and have not said anything. I mistook the website as a free forum to discuss everything but I suppose I was wrong. I can call you wrong for wearing diamonds, you can call me wrong for judging you for it…it’s doesn’t make either one of us more right or justified then the other. That is all. 

Post # 53
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@ms-k3:  I’m very offended by this comment.  Yes, I said that people should do whatever makes them happy and that people are free to make their own choices, but that doesn’t mean I’m heartless.  Of course I feel for people who are suffering in other parts of the world, but what am I supposed to do about it?  I didn’t even get a diamond myself (unless you want to count my tiny pave diamonds), but even if I did, not every diamond on the market now is a blood diamond and I’m NOT going to demonize other girls who have big engagement ring diamonds.  If you want to blame someone for all of this, at least put the blame where it BELONGS–on the people who are causing the monopoly on the diamonds!

By the way, part of the reason why I don’t judge other girls for having diamonds if they want them is because we ALL over-indulge in one way or another!  There are people who starve to death every day, have no clean water, no medicine, no clothing, no shoes, no education, nowhere to live, etc…. and yet most of us here in first world countries have so much more beyond what we need for survival.  Why should we have so much comfort and opportunities when others (especially the innocent children) have absolutely NOTHING, not even the bare basics and bare minimums?  It’s just the way it is, as heartbreaking as it is, and none of us have the power to change the world by ourselves.  Until you yourself have given up EVERY luxury that you have, you are in no position to judge others for having what you believe is only excessiveness and selfish.

Post # 54
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457 posts
Helper bee

@ms-k3:  You are fine in having your own opinion, but putting others down in such a rude way is totally uncalled for. Just an observation.

And I don’t have a guilty conscience. My diamond is a vintage family heirloom, so there’s no way it’s a current conflict diamond.

Even you said you’re not perfect. Well, love, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. I’m just sorry I allowed you to bait me. That is all. 

Post # 56
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Sugar bee

@ms-k3:  You are wrong for judging without basis, and that isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact.

Post # 57
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Wannabee

Cry

Post # 58
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638 posts
Busy bee

The diamond that will be used in my e-ring was purchased by me a decade ago, and if I recall at the time back then I did not come across the “blood diamond” problem in all my Internet research. I was unaware of that ethical issue. I guess I don’t know what I would have thought/done prior to buying it, had I found that information before getting it.

Edit to add: and now that I’ve just pulled up some history on it, I see that the conflict activity was occurring just before the year I bought the stone (2003)- so what are the odds it is one? I did read that the US put laws in place in 2001 to keep conflict diamonds out, so hopefully that helps the odds. 🙁

So what should I do now that I own it? I think recycling it into my e-ring is the best option. *shrug*. What would be the other options?

Post # 59
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

@ms-k3:  Then toss out your computer and cell phone because the are made from unethically mined products, as well.  

Post # 60
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2294 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone’s got one, and they all stink.

If you don’t like diamonds, don’t get one. If you like diamonds, get one. There is no need to get all high and mighty over other peoples’ decisions. I’m going to wear my diamond, eat my meat,  run in my Nikes and pump my gas and there is nothing anyone can do to stop me. If that makes me a bad person in the eyes of some, oh well.

Post # 61
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA

I agree with a lot of this.  I am very fortunate that I was able to receive a family heirloom ring that cost my sweetie and I a whopping $0 (well maybe a hundred or two after resizing and appraisal).  We are just beginning our careers and have a limited budget, and I would have been fine with wearing a “nontraditional” ring, but this worked out really well!

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