(Closed) I am over wedding photography packages.

posted 10 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 32
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

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@IVKWed:Well said…I am a hobbist photographer and I enjoy making the couples special day about them. I custom build packages with my clients, I can do this because I am NOT a magazine quality phtotgrapher. My clients have expressed great joy in the photography I give to them, however they also understand my style/skill level of phtography. I do not do projected slideshows during the reception or offer a photobooth(both of which are great ideas and i have rented a photobooth for my own wedding) nor do I offer leather bound books, thank you notes..etc! I do however provide quality photography and help throughout the wedding and your printing options. Photography is an art form! It is an expensive day…your wedding day…just be careful!

Post # 33
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

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@IVKWed: I have to agree with this post 100% I spend a lot of time on these boards trying to give brides a little bit of the photographer’s perspective. At the end of the day, I do honestly think that most are grateful for the advice, because most truly just have NO IDEA what is involved in the process of taking and delivering their edited wedding photos. So let me preface this by saying this is my reason I don’t blame brides for all the photo-related posts like this one that I see on these boards, but would like to take a minute to express my own thoughts.

Shooting and delivering a brides edited wedding images is 100+ hours of labor, all the worst kind (physically gruelling and high pressure on the day, and mentally tedius and seemingly endless editing, album design, retouching etc. after the day). Some packages have multiple sessions and products that require equal time to produce and deliver up to professional standards. The entire process from first contact to booking, to the wedding, to album delivery is often more than a year. For that entire time you are paying your photographer to be there to answer your questions (I literally have some brides who go onto 40 email correspondences JUST OVER THE ENGAGEMENT SESSION planning months in advance). We plan every aspect of your actual wedding day in terms of photography and then perform miracles on your day being able to capture every key, split second moment. Expectations are so high, that if we miss even one, there goes an otherwise happy client.

When it comes to other vendors: What does the baker do? They bake you a cake maybe a total of three days in advance, but some brides happily spend 1k+ on that cake made in just three days but complain about the cost of the photographer who is working for them for a YEAR! They spend 1k-10k on a dress they will wear once… do they really think sequins and satin are expensive enough to justify that price? Is it okay to pay ridiculous amounts to have an open bar all night, when those same bottles of liquor are 1/6th the price if you buy them in a store? So many other aspects of the day are ridiculously priced and involve little to no materials or labor, that it baffles me how the one vendor who is truly working their tail off for a bride is getting grief about their prices because too many brides are convinced uncle bob can do just as well with his Canon Rebel and no post processing. So that’s my rant and I apologize in advance if I offended any brides.

Post # 34
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

It’s easy to forget the work that goes on AFTER the wedding. SO and I are having the photography  talk and he doesn’t see why it’s so expensive. He should know better because he’s a graphic designer/web developer and he gets pissed when someone wants a full website with a FLASH intro (6-8 hoursof coding) and everything for $500. He’s even suggested we edit the photos ourselves since he has all the same software photographers use and I do photography as a hobby. I don’t want to do the work.

I do think that photographers should be more flexible. I hate packages because I may not want everything in said package.
It reminds me of the limo company. They charge almost $500 more for a wedding because the “wedding package” comes with a red carpet and a bottle of champagne. When I asked them if I could have it for the same price as the prom package since I didn’t want the red carpet or champagne, I was told no because it’s a wedding. Ugh.

I also more photographers would just list their prices on their website. I hate wasting time calling photographers only to find out their packages start at $3000.

Maybe we will get lucky and do a skill swap. Web site/blog, ect for services. ^_^

Post # 35
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Busy bee

Well said @LBPhotography I agree with you 100%. We spend at least 100 on every wedding. We have a few weddings a year where we really have to hold our brides hands to make sure we give them exactly what they want and that will often double that. Something else that was missed was photographers are not only giving up their time but also are blocking off their life some times years in advance. I can’t tell you how many friends weddings or family events I’ve had to miss because our commitment to our clients. Not to mention there are only so many workable wedding days a year so if you divide the overhead of running the business {very expensive and the better you are the more likely to have more overhead} plus living expenses with how many weddings you can shoot in that year you get what photographers have to charge what they do.

@Miss Tattoo I was able to barter 75% of my wedding with mostly graphic/web design and some photography. It never hurts to ask. Just make sure you have a strong bartering contract if you find vendors willing to work with you.


Post # 36
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

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@PizzutiStudios: YEah, I’m hoping to maybe find a photographer who needs a website or maybe needs to step up one they already have. My SO charges $25/hr for freelance coding and design work so perhaps we can barter with some vendors for a discount or a full on trade of services.

Post # 37
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

I’ll say this as nice as possible, and please understand that i dont mean this in a mean way, but perhaps you need to relook at that portion of your budget and allocate more to that portion.  it sounds like photography is important to you, so perhaps you can move of yourbudget that is lower on your priority list and be able to book a photorapher you really love.

Post # 38
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

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@ClairDarling: was that for me?

Post # 39
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: March 2012 - Marie Gabrielle

I understand your frustration – from the photographer side, we also deal with a lack of knowledge about what goes into pricing, especially for weddings. Pro photographers have to pay for legal backup, insurance, equipment rentals, assistants and second shooters, gallery/website/proofing services – all kinds of things. Editing time can be @4 hours for every 1 hour of shooting time. Photographers who charge crazy low prices often don’t have insurance, don’t use pro gear, or are just starting out. You as the client suffer for that if you don’t choose well. As the saying goes… “The only thing more expensive than hiring a professional is hiring an amateur.”

Weddings can be very litigious – emotions are just very high around those kinds of events, which is why any responsible wedding photographer pays for legal and insurance services (which also protects you as a client.) Just food for thought.

Post # 39
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Helper bee

Fiance and I spent a lot more than we imagined on wedding photography because we fell in love with a husband and wife team who had an amazing portfolio. In meeting with them twice I could tell their level of experience, passion and knowledge would be worth the price. We both have family flying in for us and it was important to have great photos of possibly the first and last time we are all under the same roof. 

I agree with PPs to find other areas to cut off photography is really important to you. 

Post # 40
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: July 2018

I agree that they spend a lot of time and hard work that you don’t really get to see and many people don’t understand why they are paying so much for someone to “just snap some pictures.” My fiance is having a hard time understanding why I am considering spending 4,000.00 on ours.

What I don’t understand is why they expect us to pay for things we don’t need or want. Im in a dilemma because the photog we want is now telling us we cannot remove the album from out “a la carte” package because it is now all of a sudden required that we have it in the package. The album costs 799.00. While I have heard the quality of making your own album is not as good…I DON’T CARE. For 40 bucks or so to make my own lower quality album that will sit on a shelf for years and yes I will get it out and look I doubt I will be regretting not spending 799.00 on the better quailty version.

We also don’t need an esession (they all say these are free with a package, but they truly aren’t) and we don’t need “getting ready” photos. No thank you I dont want photos of me before I’m ready with no make up on and what not. From photographers mouths they like to do these because they an get to know you and see what angles and what not look best for you. Which seems great, but as a photographer if you need trial runs, by all means do them, but at your cost not mine. Im paying them to think fast and know what they are doing.

So Im back on the hunt for other photographers that won’t force you into buying things you dont want, but i only have 3 that have nice enough work so we may get a very expensive album to collect dust in the closet for years to come after all.

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