(Closed) I hate finding out too late that a word/phrase is actually racist :-(

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Post # 258
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Honey bee

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@peachacid:  Having read the article and numerous commentaries on it from people who know this writer, I disagree he meant something by it. Sometimes a poor choice of word is just that. As a Chinese person, I did not take offense, although maybe some did. “A chink in one’s armor” is a fine literary expression that should not be discarded merely because the word “chink” has multiple meanings. The writer apologized and said he didn’t mean it, why suspect more?

Post # 259
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Sugar bee
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@Mrs_Amanda:  I disagree. Silence in response to what someone says is an endorsement of it.

I’m not saying you should call random passerbys on the street racist–thats dangerous–but correcting people that you are in conversation with? I absolutely think that is my responsibility.

Post # 260
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Honey bee

Just wondering, are people going to give up words like “barbarian”, “vandal”, and “cannibal” since they have negative racist orgins as noted in the link i previously posted? I don’t plan to. 

Post # 261
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: March 2014

Was just looking at that RSDB site entry on Billy Reuben. A few friends of mine and I discovered that one in biology class, and “visiting Billy” became code for going to the bathroom. Had no idea it was racist.

Post # 262
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Bee Keeper

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@Roe:  That is perfectly fine and reasonable, I have no issue with that. My response was more focused on people’s reactions to situations. Vandalizing a vehicle because it has  nasty bumper sticker on it is extreme. My only point is that I can not control what people say to me, I can only control how I respond. If you ( general you ) feel the need to correct, go ahead. I am not going to spend my time being offended if someone calls me a coonass. I choose not to. Others choose to say something. I don’t begrudge anyone who WOULD say something, I just am more concerned about what I can control ( my actions) vs what I cannot control ( others ignorance).

Post # 263
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Sugar bee
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@SoupyCat:  I agree, I wasn’t offended by it at all either. “Chink in the armor” is a valid metaphor.

did you know the guy who wrote the article was fired?

Post # 264
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Blushing bee

I totally see both sides of the “chink in the armor” phrase. Its a valid phrase, but its just too close for comfort. Id stay away from that one just as much as Id never refer to any frugal black person, as niggardly.

Post # 265
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 1992

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@This Time Round:  So you would rather risk someone’s job than personally tell them, “Hey, your language is racist, and it makes me uncomfortable.  Please don’t do that”??  I think that is pretty harsh.

Anyone ever hear the word “coon” in the song “You Lie” by The Band Perry??  The lyric goes:

“Well you lie like a coon dog basking in the sunshine on my porch.”

Here, it is clearly referring to a dog that hunts raccoons. I haven’t heard anyone get upset about it!

Post # 266
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Honey bee

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@Metalkisses:  Yeah, I think that’s why ESPN pretty much had to fire the guy to appease the masses, even though I believe it was an honest mistake.

Post # 267
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2019 - City, State

“Drinking the Kool-Aide” is a phrase that bothers me. It’s because a lot of people died in a very painful way, and they didn’t necessarily “want” to drink it. I listened to the tape of the people in Jonestown as they were made to drink the kool-aide and it was awful listening to them die. It was awful, too, because I had researched and knew that some were being forcefully injected with poison, children were being given it.

 

So each time I hear someone say something about “you’re drinking the kool-aid,” I cringe and I think they are being insensitive to a mass murder.

Post # 268
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Honey bee

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@honeybee1999:  I’ve listened to the tapes too. It’s horrible. I’ve done some research on Jonestown and the madness that went on there. Just horrible…

Post # 269
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Honey bee

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@SoupyCat:  I guess I should add that I don’t see anything wrong to use the phrase “drinking the cool-aid” per se though. There are a lot of phrases now in common usage that came from sad and tragic events.

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