Post # 47
Ugh what POS! Even without the HA reference she was still trying to intidate you by basically saying ‘sort your kid or i will’
Had similar situation with my youngest and another girl.I could hear this other girl mouthing off to mine,mine was quiet for a minute but ended up mouthing back.Both us mothers headed towards the girls but the other mother got there first.
As i approached i heard the other mum say to my daughter something like ‘my husband is a police officer so be careful little girl”
FUMING! But i smiled sweetly and said ‘husband a copper huh?what branch cos my Dad is the superintendant in (named our local one). Complete BLUFF on my part but she went bright red,turned on her heels and walked away!
Post # 48
To be clear, I wasn’t calling you
an idiot – I thought we were talking in hypotheticals.
I tend to trust the gut. I have occasionally had someone bow up on me and try to act tough and my my only reaction was a somewhat amused raised eyebrow followed by me going on about my day.
I’ve also had an incident or two where someone’s behavior set off interior alarm bells and genuinely scared me. So, if the OP felt scared she very likely had good reason to be. Beyond that, the other woman’s behavior was just flat out offensive and needlessly aggressive.
I, personally, cannot imagine the adult who would not understand the other kid was only trying to help and wouldn’t just merely tell him it was okay.
Also, I’m not trying to get you to agree or be upset, but since you didn’t experience the situation, I think it’s a little presumptuous to assume it wouldn’t have bothered you. There are many factors that can make an interaction feel benign or threatening – personal space, body language, facial expression, tone. I think all anyone is saying is unless you were there, you don’t really know if your above the fray demeanor would bear out in that particular situation.
Post # 49
Yep. What you said.
Sad that is he best quality, being a Hell’s Angel. I can think of lots of things I would list before that.
Post # 50
@lalalyanne: You missed option ‘d’ from your list: had I been the parents, my child would not have been STANDING on a STOOL in the first place. Morons.
I wouldn’t have left though; I’d have complained to the manager. And if I hadn’t been looking after someone, and responsible for their safety, you better believe I’d have ripped them a new one.
Post # 51
+1. It’s very easy for people to say they would have laughed, but in reality, that probably wouldn’t be the case, particularly in a situation like the OPs where she is responsible for a child’s safety and well-being as well as her own. To be shouted and at threatened by someone is never funny, in my book.
I also totally agree with trusting your gut; just the other night, I was walking my dog with my mum when this guy approached. I instantly felt uncomfortable, and low and behold, within 20 seconds he’d gone mad, for no reason, totally unprovoked, and got up in my mum’s face shouting. I knew right then that trying to back away/ignore him etc would not calm him down, and low and behold, he hit her. At that point I stepped in, shouted and swore in his face, and punched him, and continued to shout and swear. Had I not done that, god only know what would have happened; no way would he have stopped, and had I not been there, my mum would probably have ended up in hospital.
So yeah: I’m a big believer in gut instinct, so if the OP was scared, my feelings are she had reason to be, and we all react differently. As I said, if I’d not been looking after someone and had been in that situation, I might well have shouted back and/or called a manager/the police. But then, my stress levels are sky-high atm so I’m unpredictable 😉
Post # 52
While Hell’s Angels had a bad immage and some clubs are known for bigatry, they are in genral ordinarly rich white men who ride harleys and comitt drug related crimes.
There is no chance that this pond scum who you encountered had anything to do with them.
One of the basic tennants of Hell’s angels is that someone who hurt a child would never be allowed in. They might be theieves, drug dealers and bandits, but they don’t hurt kids.
They were ignorant and were throwing out something they thought would frighten you.
Post # 53
+1, re post #32. Exactly.
Post # 54
That is horrible I would be so upset! People can be terrible sometimes.
Post # 55
That’s awful! Your poor Mum! I think I would have gone utterly and completely batshit crazy if anyone had ever struck my sweet, gentle Mom. I’m glad you’re both okay.
It today’s society, you just don’t know. People are crazy. The latest violent overreaction on the news here is of one buy shooting and killing another guy during an argument over texting in a movie theatre. So yeah, I think everyone should be on guard in any potentially dangerous situation.
When did people lose the ability to just be civil to one another?
Post # 56
@lalalyanne: This is the type of person who gives all parents a bad reputation. It sucks because most parents would never dream of doing something like that.
My mom worked as a Job Coach with Special Needs students at my High School for a few years. You couldn’t ask for a better group of students to work with. She adored those students and probably would have done the same thing in your situation (although, she does have a temper at times, but I think she would have disengaged to keep anything from happening).
You absolutely made the right call here. Even if she didn’t mean anything violent, it was still the right call to get out of there as soon as you could and to inform the restaurant manager on the way out. That mom isn’t doing her kid any favors by acting like that and treating others in such a manner.
Post # 57
People have always acted like this. We just never heard about it as much before because we didn’t have 24 hour News channels, the internet, TV, etc.
Your poor mom! I’m glad you were able to get that jerk to back off and I’m glad all three of you (including puppy) are ok!
Post # 58
I don’t know; I’m inclined to agree with @Zhabeego:
; I do feel like people are becoming increasingly uncivilized.
I can only speak for where I live of course, but my town and the surrounding towns have all gone massively down-hill over the last decade, and crime rates have gone up. Working at a school, and having started a teaching course, I also see a massive difference in discipline, both at school and in the home. It seems like children are allowed to do almost whatever the hell they want, with few consequences; thenh those people go on to have children who are equally as badly behaved, and the cycle continues.
Factors like unemployment also don’t help.
I’m not saying things were all unicorns and rainbows a few years ago; but from my personal observations I do feel like people on the whole are becoming more selfish and less civil.
Post # 59
I get what you’re saying and I do agree. However, each generation has their own problems and each generation is looked down on by the older members of society for how they live and act – I mean, there is evidence that people in ancient Greece were angry at the way their youths acted! So kids acting badly isn’t anything new (I do think we should look into ways to help prevent behavior like that man exhibited when he attacked your mom and that woman who confronted the OP exhibited).
People have always been selfish and uncivil – even at the courts of the most powerful and noble Kings there were stupid fights and bickering that ended in death. People have been getting into fights and duels and arguements for as long as there have been humans, we just hear more about it now because of technology.
Post # 60
What a twat that lady is. I highly doubt she is actually a Hells Angel. Pretty sure the actual Hells Angels don’t go around threatening to beat up small children lol. They do charity events & fundraisers for kids with cancer, they do toy drives at Christmas time, etc. They obviously do bad things too but I’m pretty sure roughing up kids is not one of them.
Post # 61
I unfortunately can’t laugh in the face of someone who is threatening (or even just being aggressive) me while I’m working.? That’s not exactly professional or keeping the situation to a minimum. And I had to report it because, again, work time. If something had happened and I hadn’t said anything, that wouldn’t be appropriate.
It doesn’t have to ruin a persons day to be totally innaprpriate, uncalled for an worthy of a vent 😉