Post # 77
After reading your update, it puts things in a different perspective. The fear biting + children thing is a huge issue. Even though it is heartbreaking, it does seem like you’re doing the right thing if you know your dog cannot be trusted around children and you and your Fiance plan on having kids soon. You could arrange with the breeder to get updates every couple of months, send you pictures, etc.
My parents used to breed standard poodles (sounds very much like your breeder; totally a hobby because they loved the breed) and they had to take back a dog due to some extreme circumstances with the family that had bought her. The woman who had to give her up (and her two daughters) were incredibly sad, but we gave the dog a great life, loved her, and she lived happily with us until she passed away from natural causes. We also took back a dog for a few months when his owners were moving across the country and needed time to find a place and settle in. This was before the internet was ubiquitous and made everything easy and fast. We sent them updates, and when they were ready they came to take their dog back. If you think you could ever get your dog’s behavioral issues under control, that could also be an option.
Best of luck with everything *hugs* I can tell you truly love your dog and I’m sure whatever you do will be best for him.
Post # 79
@wvrunner: I’m really sorry you are going througth this awful predicament and feeling this way. Is iit possible to rent a guest house instead? The owners of houses and guest houses often tend to be a bit more flexible than apartment owners. Also, you may want avoid apartments that are professionally managed by a property management company, and look for a building that is still a “mom and pop” operation Instead.
best of luck to you.
Post # 80
Please reconsider what you are doing. You got this dog as a member of your family and that is how your dog looks at you. There are pet friendly places to live, it just may take more searching.
Also, your Fiance and his friends hate you dog because he is hyper and has behavioural problems? I kinda want to smack all of them. What happens if you have a child and they are hyper/have behavioural problems? Before people jump down my throat, a dog and a child are very much the same thing to many (i wish it was all) people. When you get an animal, you commit to it for life.
I truly wish you luck, and really hope you will not give up on your search!
Post # 81
I’m really sorry to hear about the troubles you’re having! TGold had such a great suggestion, with maybe the breeders being able to take your dog just for a few months instead of, you know, forever? It might ease your stress a little at least, and maybe you could decide on a more permanent basis later. Just talk to your breeder and see if they have any suggestions, maybe.
The behavioral problems will likely be an issue for renting anywhere. I have to ask, though. If he was bit on the neck, why do you have him in a collar instead of a chest harness? Is he just too big for one? It might help with the fear biting if he didn’t have anything around his neck to trigger him.
Post # 82
The collar is for his tags (rabbies, etc.). I do have a special type of chest harness for him that links to the leash in the front and helps prevent pulling (he’s bad about that). I can’t leave this harness on all the time, because he’s chewed through 2 already. When he gets really excited, I have to be able to hold his collar or he can definitely pull away from me. I’m a strong 100lbs, and can handle his 65lbs, but not if he catches me off guard and not if I don’t have a solid grip.
His neck was never truly hurt by the attack, but the damage done was how much it scared him. He wouldn’t go around another dog for months after. I’m so mad at the lady that brought her notoriously aggressive golden to the dog park (a fact I learned after the incident). All Luke did was come up to him and sniff him, and for that he was attacked and scarred for life.
Post # 83
Thank you for trying to help. Unfortunately, NC apartments do us no good, we don’t have jobs there and aren’t able to move there yet. Anything in WV isn’t an option because of taxes…My Fiance has inherited a couple vintage herloom cars from his grandfather, has another car for sale, and then has a new SUV that he uses for work (he needs an all terrain vehicle). These are all registered in OH. The cost of taxes to register these vehicles in WV would really hurt us financially and we just can’t afford it. And believe me, we’ve checked all the “dog friendly” places in and around Marietta, OH. They are either for dogs under 20lbs or in dangerous neighborhoods.
Also, if you get a chance read the update I posted the other day. You can see my dog’s problems are beyond that of obedience trainers. He knows all of the obedience commands, I have taught him about 20 words and commands, including the hand signals for each.
Post # 84
Just a general update…
I’ve been reading a lot of comments asking me to reconsider. It’s not a matter of reconsidering, we have exhausted all of our options, there really is no solution. I would reconsider in a heart beat if there were another option. But we have simply ran out of time. Maybe if Luke didn’t have behavior problems I could approach a landlord and ask for an exception, but he’s not going to make a good first impression on a landlord because he gets really excited around people. Luke is also a barker, and we could legally be evicted if enough complaints are filed (I almost was thrown out of a dog friendly hotel once, because of his occasional bark when he heard something outside). Which is why we eventually decided to narrow our focus to rental houses. I currently own my home, and so this hasn’t been an issue. That’s also why, as a last resort, we tried to buy a house, even though it wasn’t the smartest financial decision (but still something we could afford).
I spoke with my breeders and confirmed that Luke will have a safe and loving home with them. As I mentioned before, they live on a large farm and only breed their 2 dogs (Luke’s parents) once a year, so it’s more of a hobby rather than a business. He’s going to have tons of room to run and other vizsla’s to play with. My breeders are also dog trainers, so they can work with Luke’s behavior issues. I’m taking him back to them on September 14 so that I can have a few weeks to heal before my wedding.
It may sound stupid, but I’ve been consoling myself with the thought that Luke gets to go back to his real doggy parents.
I don’t think re-adopting Luke will happen. My Fiance is really concerned about having children if Luke’s around. His point has been, if I’m able to move past giving up my dog, then I re-adopt him a year later, and his behavior problems surface again, why go through the pain of separation again? Because in his current state, we could not have Luke and have children. There’s too much potential for danger. A dog who fear bites can never be considered predicable or safe. It’s one of the few behavioral problems that may never be solved because of it’s deep emotional and psychological roots within the dog. Honestly, because of this, if I didn’t have to face giving him up now, I would probably have to face it in 1-2 yrs when we start trying for children.
I can see the validity of all of this, but my emotions just haven’t caught up with my logic yet. *Sigh* I will make it. Unfortunately, this will always mark my memories of my engagement and wedding. But, it’s worth it because I truly am gaining an amazing husband, and it’s the marriage that counts, not the wedding.