(Closed) I think we live in the wrong country! Maternity leave related.

posted 9 years ago in Babies
Post # 47
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

@roxy821: “I think I need to move just to have a baby lol”

That thought has crossed my mind a few times. I am in Canada and since I work on a contractual basis (not by choice really), I don’t get any Mat leave. But yes, I do [UNFAIRLY] pay the taxes which as a result provides Mat leave pay for other women. Cry

IT SUCKSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post # 48
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109 posts
Blushing bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

What about the employer? They are just supposed to let their business suffer because you want to have a child?

It takes nearly a year just to train someone to work in our business, so there is no way it would be worth it to “hold” a job for someone while they take a year off.

 

Post # 49
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

@Tatum: Exactly what I was getting at, thanks for clarifying 🙂

 

@pinkshoes: I agree, if it really does even out and a company would allow me unpaid leave for a year, fine, that works too. But past the 6/8 weeks, no company is required to hold your spot and you’d be out of a job. In this economy that’s just not an option.

Post # 50
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

@houstonlawbride:

Many industrialized countries have a year maternity leave, where the economy hasn’t suffered because of this. I don’t think businesses can really suffer that much.

Post # 51
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389 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

@Cash000:  The ideal American family for a really long time was the dad works and the mom stays home with the kids and keeps the home. Only relatively recently did it become more popular for both parents to work or to have a single parent family. I just don’t think America has figured out how to handle it yet. That doesn’t mean the US doesn’t care about families.

For those in countries with paid maternity leave from the government- is there a limit on how many kids you can have and still collect the maternity leave money? What if you have 2 kids a year apart. Do you get 2 years in a row of maternity leave and then still have your job to go back to?

Post # 52
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@houstonlawbride:

There are plenty of professional staffing agencies that can help provide temporary people in any number of fields. How can this even be an issue when so many people are laid off and out of work, across the board? Very few people are as necessary as they imagine; I think there is much greater emotional investment in being irreplaceable in American workplace culture, maybe because employees are often treated as disposable in so many of them. And I think sometimes people are scared that the people with control of budgets will realize that they could replace that person with someone slightly less educated or less experienced or just hungrier, and pay them less.

Post # 53
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@babymakes3:

You get parental leave per child. (In Sweden.)

Post # 54
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

@Cash000

I personally have about 10 employees, and would suffer terribly if I had to hold a job for one of them for a year. I’m speaking from experience here – there is a reason small business aren’t required to offer ANY maternity leave. We wouldn’t be able to survive it, and then those 10 people would just be out of a job all together.

Sam with my Fiance – he is self employed (attorney) with one employee, and he couldn’t just hold her job for her – it wouldn’t make any financial sense to train someone to do the job for a year when it is so expensive to train someone in the first place.

Post # 55
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

@Elvis

 

Admittedly, it is a pretty specific field so it may be a limited number of businesses that would be impacted in the same way – but there is no way a staffing agency could supply someone who is even remotely trained for working here.

Post # 56
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2820 posts
Sugar bee

I’m not sure why employers have such an issue with part time work but I know other mommies on here have tried talking to their companies about it and gotten shot down.  Usually people end up working more than part time but still get paid half the amount.  But part time work would help keep women up to date in their field while being able to have more baby time, and shouldn’t be a hardship to the company.  It seems though that anything but balls out working is looked down upon.  I literally got laughed at when I talked about a part-time post-doc, I’ve been in research a good number of years and cannot figure out why that’s a laugable idea, funny thing is that the people laughing can’t explain why it’s laughable either. 

Post # 57
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

@houstonlawbride

I am currently pregnant, but I can easily see the other side. I would be BEYOND pissed if I had to cover for another employee for months on end. I’ve had to do it a couple times (the position below mine has had a high turnover rate this year and I’ve had to pick up the slack in between workers twice this year, once for 4 weeks and once for 6 weeks) and it was awful. The thought of being stuck with that for a year is terrible. We tried hiring a temp to pick up the slack and that was pretty much the worst two weeks of my life- she didn’t get it at all and it was actually more work than just doing it all by myself.

Post # 58
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

Here in Iceland we get 3 months leave for the mother, 3 months for the father and 3 months that we can split between us and get paid 80% of what we were earning before the baby was born. But it is possible to take up to a year on maternity leave and then the percentage just lessens. 

Post # 59
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@houstonlawbride:

I suppose that when it’s the law, you figure out a way to work with it. At least pregnancy is something that you have time to plan to have a replacement for, unlike an accident or illness or an employee quitting with short notice.

I think also there is just an attitude difference. People don’t see a mother or father about to have a new child in their family and think “Oh my god, how inconvenient for me!” (Even bosses and employers don’t think this.)

It’s also funny that one of our politicians was complaining about the law that each parent has 60 non-transferable days, because she did not want to take so much time off and would rather her husband could use it. (Exactly the situation it’s designed to prevent, actually–the non transferable days are so both parents get an opportunity to bond with their child, though usually it’s the other way and the fathers were giving time to the mothers.) Of course the complaining loses its validity when you remember she has 8 years in which to use those days. 🙂

Post # 60
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2011

 I dont understand why people keep saying you should just save up towards it rather than have higher taxes. Why do you have health insurance in the first place, doesnt that cause a bigger deduction in your pay check? Why dont you just pay for all the medical bills directly from your savings? Because obviously its easier when its deducted every month for you and the employer contributes to it. In the same way in countries where there are higher taxes, the taxes alone if saved by the individuald wouldnt be the same as the amount the govt pays out when you are on maternity leave. I lived in england for many years and can tell you honestly that their system is ten times better than ours. and the tax rate is not THAT much higher than ours.

Post # 61
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2011

@bells: medical insurance covers far more than what you pay for it.  My coworker had a brain hermorage and had to be in the hospital for 5 days… her bill was over 70k!  Most of that was covered by insurance.  Insurnace is about 1500/year I think.  And I think that is expensive – the first company I worked for had the same coverage and it was only $250/year!  There’s no way  outrageous medical bills can be compared to simple lost of wages vs higher taxes.  Insurnace is meant to pay for/cover MORE than what you pay for it.

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