if employer is insisting you are essential report it. Covid-19

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Post # 16
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Helper bee
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mrsssb :  I’ve never heard that from our state. But I just meant we don’t know 100% what is essential and what is not, and for what purpose people are doing things. I wouldn’t be quick to judge why a company is open or why a person is outside. We are all just trying to get by, put food on our tables and pay our bills. 

Post # 18
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Helper bee
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mrsssb :  And those employees who report on their own company are now looking at loss of income. It’s a risk assessment for people, and some people being ‘forced’ to work may not be a bad thing for the economy. But I do agree, if someone truly feels they are non-essential, at risk, and can afford loss of income, they are more than welcome and encouraged to report their employer sure. 

Post # 19
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: April 2017 - City, State

There are places encouraging people to report companies that should be closed and they are setting up special numbers and contacts for people to do it. An example:

March 21, 2020

The County of Santa Clara District Attorney’s Office has established a new phone number and email for individuals or businesses to report a non-essential business operating in violation of the Health Officer Order to Shelter in Place. Reports of businesses operating in violation of the order can be directed to [email protected]. A voicemail can be left by calling (408) 792-2300 in English, Spanish, and Vietnamese

So clearly, the local authorities that are putting this in place think it’s important businesses follow the directives they’ve put in place. 

So I agree with OP. If you see a business is open that does not qualify as what your local / state government has deemed essential, find the appropriate contact (don’t call 911) and report them. They are setting up special numbers and emails for a reason.

Post # 20
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Busy bee

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MiniMeow :  I would say to make sure you’re aware of what your state specific guidelines are.  For places where there’s a shelter-in-place order, this is wonderful, and I 100% support it as OP said.  But for me, my state is “strongly urging” non-essential businesses to have employees work from home when possible and the only RULE is to have 10 people or fewer in one place, all 6′ apart.  So before you report something, just ensure that you know what the actual rules are for businesses where you live.

Post # 21
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: April 2017 - City, State

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krm1984 :  Yes I agree, don’t randomly report businesses without making sure what the current status is where you are. It’s changing all the time so I understand the confusion that people and even businesses might have. But I am glad that there is an official way for people to report businesses violating important health office orders where appropriate.

Post # 22
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Bee Keeper

But reported to who? That’s my issue. Two friends had to put up with this and one lost her job the other ignored an ADA accomodation request. Some employers are being brutal now. I just want to know who to refer them to other than lawyers which I did that already. 

Post # 23
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Honey bee

I’m so confused…I thought the essential vs non thing was for businesses performing services to the public, not corporations. My husband’s company is still open, although he is allowed to work from home. It’s a very large company that has offices all over the country. I doubt they’re doing anything illegal by having the offices open???

Post # 24
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temeculabride :  exactly. I work for an essential employer. Plumbing is not required to close. I tried working from home but it was way to hard with the equip to have. 

Our work has slowed and next week I may be the only one in the office for a bit. But for now, I am happy that I am getting a paycheck. A lot of things rest on me having an income. Fiancé’s work has been slow since before Christmas. I have to earn my paycheck 

Post # 25
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2017

My husband works in car repairs. The sales side of his work has closed. The repairs have been deemed essential by our state. It surprised me that car repairs are deemed essential but he’s not able to work from home,’and while his hours have been cut, he’s still getting a paycheck, we have a baby due in June and we need his income.

He would qualify for unemployment but our state website has been crashing due to such high activity so that takes a while to get set up

You would be surprised to find out what the state deems essential and what is not essential 

Post # 26
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2014

Before you waste everyone’s time, please be sure you know the regulations in your state or city. These rules do NOT mean all work comes to a sceeeching halt. Many of us actually have to work during this time and we shouldn’t be reporting on our employers just because we are pissed about having to do our jobs.

 

Post # 27
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2017

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whitums :  ny was specific, non essential businesses need to have 100% of their staff working from home. If your business can’t have the staff work from home then they need to close.

It was based on the business not on the staff

I’m in finance but I work for a hospital. While finance isn’t essential, the hospital is. We are able to work from home thankfully but we are allowed to come into the office as needed to send out cash and mail that flows through our office or to print etc. if it was based on non essential staff instead of non essential business, we would probably be affected

Post # 28
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Helper bee
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Horseradish :   Agreed!

And what some may not understand is the reasons each employer is choosing to stay open (beyond specific restrictions / allowances in each local area). Some companies may be facing bankruptcy and shutting down operations may mean not paying their employees or even losing their business entirely. One phone call by someone’s wife or nosy friend reporting a company that they think should close could mean loss of income for hundreds of people, loss of homes, etc. People are doing what they can to survive. I certainly would rather go in to work and continue earning an income than report them and lose my career or home. I know it is essential manufacturing and I won’t argue that. Are people in the market to buy airplanes right now? No, no one is flying and the industry is crashing. So why does the aviation / airline industry need to stay open? Because halting production would bankrupt half the country. Essential means different things to the economy than many people may think. 

OP was saying to call only if it is you or your family working there so basically you have the inside scoop, but MiniMeow was saying to call for any business you see open that you think should not be open. I’m sorry but I still disagree, your phone call could ruin many lives. Unless you’re spending day and night studying the laws and each specific business, my guess is you don’t really know who should be open or closed and you could be making a huge mistake. Just stay home, wash your hands, and mind your business. 

I’m afraid that impact to the economy will be much worse and last far longer than the virus itself. 

 

Post # 29
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Busy bee

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Sansa85 :  My husband is also in the automotive industry, he runs the service department for a dealership.  They’ve been told they’re essential, and their sales department is lobbying to stay open as well.  I believe the request was denied by the state but we’ll see.  Crazy!

Post # 30
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2021 - Dracut, Massachusetts

My best friend works at a pawn shop. I think that’s non-essential and they apparently told her they are looped in with banks. To me, her store is not necessary to be open, nor is it a financial insitutution. You can wait to pawn your dead mother’s jewelery and your PS4. Sorry.

She took the rest of this week off and said she has three weeks of vacation time she can use. That just sucks that she has to use her own time. I would just take the loss at this point if I was her. Her poor husband is a fire fighter and a paramedic- I’d rather be home to support him because he’s been working crazy hours lately.

My Fiance and I are lucky that we can both work from home. I have no work really at the moment, but I know it’s going to pick up like mad when the covid results start pouring in- and more people are hospitalized. I do medical coding. I’ve only had a few cases that were so far tested on inpatient, but they have been negative. Flu A has still been rampant though!!

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