Post # 1
What do you think a voter should do? Force herself to pick the lesser of the two evils? Stay home? Or write-in a candidate?
I do not want Hillary
–because I disgree with some of her views
–I do not want the Clintons (or Bushes) back because we have been there, done that, and I wish the Democrats had presented someone new with fresh ideas.
I do not want Trump
—mainly because he has an ugly mouth, is rude, crude, offensive, and lacks the dignity that our president should have. Someone like Lindsay Graham would have been a much better candidate for the Republicans.
Anyone else feeling stuck between a rock and a hard place? Even Ted Cruz is caught between not wanting Hillary and not being able to stomach Trump.
In the past, I have always voted FOR somebody. This is the first time that I may vote just to stop someone from becoming president.
Post # 2
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I feel as though choosing the lesser of two evils happens with nearly every election, contextually. I’m going to suck it up and vote. I view voting as my democratic civic duty.
Post # 3
I’ve usually gone with who I agree more. But in this election…ugh. I definitely say to still vote and do a write in or seriously consider a third party option if you feel very strongly opposed to both candidates. Eventually, it would be nice to move toward more than a two party system. And this election is definitely setting the stage for that to happen, but those of us unhappy with both of our main options need to still participate.
Post # 4
mrsmacatak : I get your point. But it is frustrating that I had no choice in who the candidates were. I eagerly anticipated my state’s primary so that I could vote for another Republican other than Trump and help stop his momentum.
Found out at the polls that I could not vote in the primary because I am a registered independent. In the state where I lived previously, independents could pick a side and vote in either the Democratic or Republican primary.
Forty percent of my state’s voters are registered independents, and we had no say.
Post # 5
Hey – it’s even worse for us in the rest of the world! I’m Canadian – we see all the debates and votes – we’ve seen for months now that it’s coming down to Hilary vs Trump – but we can’t do anything. We have no vote. At least you have a say in who becomes leader.
Post # 6
Carolsays : I would personally not bother voting.
Post # 7
Carolsays : I think it depends. I live in Massachusetts, where Hillary Clinton is going to win, by a landslide, no matter what. I plan on voting for her, but several of my other friends who were pro-Bernie are thinking about voting for Jill Stein (Green Party) just so they don’t have to vote for Hillary. That’s fine with me, because again, Massachusetts will go Blue no matter what.
However, if you live in a swing state, I think your role changes. If I lived in a state like Ohio, I would try to persuade those same friends to vote for Hillary, because in those states, your vote simply matters more. It sucks that the electoral college system works that way, but swing state voters matter immensely this election, and if you live in one of those states, don’t throw your vote away (and don’t vote for Trump, either)!
Just my two cents.
Post # 8
I voted for Bernie in our state’s primary. I don’t love Hillary, but she aligns much more with my beliefs and values than Trump- so she will get my vote.
Post # 9
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Carolsays : that’s the failure of the two party majority system. The common political theory is that independents do not care about the primaries; they care about the general election. Independents can’t truly get upset… they dont have a horse in the race, per se. They aren’t voting for someone to lead their party, like the primaries do for the Republican and Democratic Parties. I always say there’s going to be a major political realignment in the next 5-10 years, because the 2 major parties no longer symbolize the younger generations.
But, alas, we have our 2 choices. It sucks to say this, but a very large percentage of people voted for Trump. He won the Republican delegate count handedly. One state was not going to sway the final outcome. If he and Clinton are what the majority of people in the two parties want, then us independents need to pick off of our conscience.
Post # 10
Third party candidates usually take votes away from whomever the candidate from the two main parties platforms are most similar. All that will happen is we will end up with the total opposite of what you really wanted because the third party votes could have gone to the main party candidate that has political views closest to your own to help them win.
IMO this is a very dangerous election to vote for a third party candidate in.
the time to stand up for someone different was at the democratic/republican primary
Another way to get a third party a decent shot in the presidental election is to support their political aspirations at a local levels so that they can get the experience they need.
Post # 11
Either candidate is equally horrendous, but Clinton is definitely worse with her blatant no f*cks given corruption. I am actually an Independent also but because my state’s primary does not allow them to vote, I changed my registration just to be able to vote this primary.
Have you considered either Independent’s runner Jill Stein or the Libertarian runner Gary Johnson & William Weld? I was really discouraged at how the primaries turned out too but after researching these two different candidates, I actually really like Johnson & Weld. But this presidential election cycle really put a spotlight and has exposed irrefutable evidence on just how corrupt the RNC and especially the DNC are. I have a strong feeling that after this election, we may no longer just be a two party system.
Post # 12
Carolsays : + a million. I am an older Bee and never in my voting life have I ever been so freaked out by a presidential election. Seriously, WTF is going on? I’m no tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist, but I could swear we are being set up by an invisible hand of doom. Or we are finally living in an Idiocracy. Lol
I am a moderate, but I would take ANY modern president or failed candidate, Hell any past VP over the two options we are facing today. I cannot stand to listen to either one of them speak for 4 minutes, let alone 4 years, leaving their political views out.
I admit that in the beginning, I thought it would be fun to watch Trump beat the establishment (it was like watching a reality shit show, natch😛. But I’m not laughing anymore. It’s legit scary now.
P.S. My son is fairly conservative and he liked Lindsay Graham too:)
Post # 13
I’m a big advocate for voiting 3rd party if you have major grievances with both candidates. The lesser of two evils arguments is what gets us in this mess in the first place — politicians can serve their own interest because really, we all give in and vote for one of them anyways.
In the short term, your vote is lost. Our next president will be from one of the 2 major parties. However, it a vote of no confidence and demonstrates the political dissatifcation that down the road can produce a true 3 party race in the future or a realignment of political parties.
Post # 14
You need to amend the poll to include voting for a 3rd party candidate. Clinton and Trump will not be the only two on the ballot for president; third party candidates will be on there and are different from a write-in.
I will be voting 3rd party, just as I did in the last 2 elections. I don’t believe in voting for the lesser of two evils; I believe in voting for the person who I believe will best lead our country. I think if every single person in the US took that stance, we would have more than 2 “viable” candidates each election. I would never vote for Trump or Hillary, so my vote isn’t taking away from one side or the other.
Post # 15
I definitely do not recommend to write another name. I saw some people elsewhere saying they’ll write Bernie instead. Please, don’t do that. That’s like giving a vote to Trump.
Then not voting means more chances for Trump to win. I don’t know about you but I don’t want a racist president and his anti-LGBTQ+ VP to win. Hillary may not be that good but compared to Trump she’s amazing! And then also Hillary’s husband didn’t plagiarized. 🙂
So yeah, go ahead and vote for the one that is less evil and hopefully you also realize it’s Hillary.