(Closed) If you don't want either Hillary or Trump…..

posted 4 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: What should a voter do if he/she does not like either presidential candidate?
    Do not vote : (22 votes)
    8 %
    Write in another name : (40 votes)
    14 %
    Decide who is the lesser of two evils and vote : (198 votes)
    68 %
    other : (32 votes)
    11 %
  • Post # 2
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: June 2017 - A Historic Inn

    I feel as though choosing the lesser of two evils happens with nearly every election, contextually. I’m going to suck it up and vote. I view voting as my democratic civic duty. 

    Post # 3
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2015

    I’ve usually gone with who I agree more.  But in this election…ugh.  I definitely say to still vote and do a write in or seriously consider a third party option if you feel very strongly opposed to both candidates.  Eventually, it would be nice to move toward more than a two party system.  And this election is definitely setting the stage for that to happen, but those of us unhappy with both of our main options need to still participate.  

    Post # 5
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: June 2016

    Hey – it’s even worse for us in the rest of the world! I’m Canadian – we see all the debates and votes – we’ve seen for months now that it’s coming down to Hilary vs Trump – but we can’t do anything. We have no vote. At least you have a say in who becomes leader.

    Post # 6
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    Helper bee

    Carolsays :  I would personally not bother voting. 

    Post # 7
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: June 2015

    Carolsays :  I think it depends. I live in Massachusetts, where Hillary Clinton is going to win, by a landslide, no matter what. I plan on voting for her, but several of my other friends who were pro-Bernie are thinking about voting for Jill Stein (Green Party) just so they don’t have to vote for Hillary. That’s fine with me, because again, Massachusetts will go Blue no matter what.

    However, if you live in a swing state, I think your role changes. If I lived in a state like Ohio, I would try to persuade those same friends to vote for Hillary, because in those states, your vote simply matters more. It sucks that the electoral college system works that way, but swing state voters matter immensely this election, and if you live in one of those states, don’t throw your vote away (and don’t vote for Trump, either)!

    Just my two cents.

    Post # 8
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2010

    I voted for Bernie in our state’s primary. I don’t love Hillary, but she aligns much more with my beliefs and values than Trump- so she will get my vote.

    Post # 9
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: June 2017 - A Historic Inn

    Carolsays :  that’s the failure of the two party majority system. The common political theory is that independents do not care about the primaries; they care about the general election. Independents can’t truly get upset… they dont have a horse in the race, per se. They aren’t voting for someone to lead their party, like the primaries do for the Republican and Democratic Parties. I always say there’s going to be a major political realignment in the next 5-10 years, because the 2 major parties no longer symbolize the younger generations. 

    But, alas, we have our 2 choices. It sucks to say this, but a very large percentage of people voted for Trump. He won the Republican delegate count handedly. One state was not going to sway the final outcome. If he and Clinton are what the majority of people in the two parties want, then us independents need to pick off of our conscience. 

    Post # 10
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    Buzzing bee

    Third party candidates usually take votes away from whomever the candidate from the two main parties platforms are most similar.  All that will happen is we will end up with the total opposite of what you really wanted because the third party votes could have gone to the main party candidate that has political views closest to your own to help them win.  

    IMO this is a very dangerous election to vote for a third party candidate in. 

    the time to stand up for someone different was at the democratic/republican primary

    Another way to get a third party a decent shot in the presidental election is to support their political aspirations at a local levels so that they can get the experience they need.  

    Post # 11
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    Bumble bee

    Either candidate is equally horrendous, but Clinton is definitely worse with her blatant no f*cks given corruption.  I am actually an Independent also but because my state’s primary does not allow them to vote, I changed my registration just to be able to vote this primary.

    Have you considered either Independent’s runner Jill Stein or the Libertarian runner Gary Johnson & William Weld?  I was really discouraged at how the primaries turned out too but after researching these two different candidates, I actually really like Johnson & Weld.  But this presidential election cycle really put a spotlight and has exposed irrefutable evidence on just how corrupt the RNC and especially the DNC are.  I have a strong feeling that after this election, we may no longer just be a two party system.  

    Post # 12
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: July 2010

    Carolsays :  + a million. I am an older Bee and never in my voting life have I ever been so freaked out by a presidential election. Seriously, WTF is going on? I’m no tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist, but I could swear we are being set up by an invisible hand of doom. Or we are finally living in an Idiocracy. Lol

    I am a moderate, but I would take ANY modern president or failed candidate, Hell any past VP over the two options we are facing today. I cannot stand to listen to either one of them speak for 4 minutes, let alone 4 years, leaving their political views out.

    I admit that in the beginning, I thought it would be fun to watch Trump beat the establishment (it was like watching a reality shit show, natch😛. But I’m not laughing anymore. It’s legit scary now. 

    P.S. My son is fairly conservative and he liked Lindsay Graham too:)

    Post # 13
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    Buzzing bee

    I’m a big advocate for voiting 3rd party if you have major grievances with both candidates. The lesser of two evils arguments is what gets us in this mess in the first place — politicians can serve their own interest because really, we all give in and vote for one of them anyways.

    In the short term, your vote is lost. Our next president will be from one of the 2 major parties. However, it a vote of no confidence and demonstrates the political dissatifcation that down the road can produce a true 3 party race in the future or a realignment of political parties.

    Post # 14
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2013

    You need to amend the poll to include voting for a 3rd party candidate. Clinton and Trump will not be the only two on the ballot for president; third party candidates will be on there and are different from a write-in. 

    I will be voting 3rd party, just as I did in the last 2 elections. I don’t believe in voting for the lesser of two evils; I believe in voting for the person who I believe will best lead our country. I think if every single person in the US took that stance, we would have more than 2 “viable” candidates each election. I would never vote for Trump or Hillary, so my vote isn’t taking away from one side or the other. 

    Post # 15
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    Newbee

    I definitely do not recommend to write another name. I saw some people elsewhere saying they’ll write Bernie instead. Please, don’t do that. That’s like giving a vote to Trump. 

    Then not voting means more chances for Trump to win. I don’t know about you but I don’t want a racist president and his anti-LGBTQ+ VP to win. Hillary may not be that good but compared to Trump she’s amazing! And then also Hillary’s husband didn’t plagiarized. 🙂 

    So yeah, go ahead and vote for the one that is less evil and hopefully you also realize it’s Hillary.

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