Post # 1
I rarely complain about being a clinical instructor, but today I am. For the last two weeks, we’ve had a student shadowing us, about to apply to a program for what I do, and it’s been…uneventful.
This person (not getting married so probably not gonna be here) has shown absolutely zero interest in what we do, yet she’s sent out her application to the university last week.
You’re supposed to shadow for 40 hours, and actually learn about what we do, and have a general working knowledge of our field and when you go (if you get accepted) to the school, then they’ll ask you about it most likely in your interview to get in.
Today I had to actually go out to my waiting room and pry her away from the television. She was sitting in there for 2 hours with her shoes off watching “Project Runway”. Now I love fashion like many of us do, but that sent me over the edge. I asked her if she cared to participate any more, since she came in this morning, got magazines (my secret stash for when I’m at lunch) out from my cubby, began reading them and didn’t watch one damn thing we were doing.
When she got ready to leave, she asked me if I’d sign her shadowing information and in it I’m supposed to attest she followed us around and watched us performing procedures, etc and I refused. I said, “I can’t say that you really watched or paid attention at all. You haven’t asked any questions, but I can write that you watched 2 hours of project runway today.” I then asked her if she really wanted to do this b/c she’s shown no interest. She said she did want to do this and I told her that she’d get grilled on what she saw and what area she likes best in her interview and that most likely she’d have no clue how to answer them.
This was her last day and she asked if she could come back more to watch more and I said it was not up to me. I sent her to the department director for his judgement call on that.
That’s the first time ever I’ve had to do this. We’re in a recession. Good jobs are snatched up quickly for college grads and it’s competitive. You’d think we’d see some level of tangible motivation from a would-be student.
Arrgh. I’ve had to babysit her there for two weeks and the whole time it was pleading w/her and prodding her to step away from the magazines and participate.
Post # 3
I think you are right there. If she wanted the job, she should be paying attention and asking questions, not watching TV or reading magazines!
Post # 4
Yikes. How insulting!
Nope, certainly doesn’t sound like she’s interested. I’d say she’s either depressed, figured it would be a great way to make money (in which case they’ll find her out, don’t worry), or is being made to do this by parents/spouse/etc. Tragic. What’s really tragic is that assuming she does get in, if it’s an intensive program and she’s not into it she’s going to wash right out, in which case she took a space away from someone who really wanted/needed it.
You did the right thing, by the way.
Post # 5
I still can’t believe I had to do this today. My director took my side and might talk to the program director at the univ. Seriously. A waste of our time.
She came in this am and flipped out the magazine from my cubby and said “hey..aren’t these shoes cute?” I said “wow, I don’t have time to notice because I’m going to check on my patient in the other room.”
Post # 6
Wow, that is kind of a slap in the face. She seems pretty ungrateful about things. I can’t believe she would act that way, that is so rude. She seems like the type of person who gets most things handed to her or else she would be trying really hard to prove to people that this is something she wants very badly and is willing to work hard for.
Post # 7
Ew! Wow that person just sounds so rude!
Post # 8
Good for you for being honest. In my office,hygienists came in every few weeks to observe. Some never shut up and bragged about themselves, some asked stupid questions in front of the patients, and some looked up at the ceiling as if they’d rather be anywhere but where they were. I got it…it can be boring to observe, but, it shoud also give you some ideas, helpful tools for when you’re treating your own patients, and a general feel for how offices are run.
We also had dental assistant students come though on rotations for 6 weeks at a time. Very few of them knew anything about anything (sad to say) and the head DA in the office wouldn’t ever give them poor reviews. She was doing them a grave disservice in my opinion,as I sometimes pitied the offices that hired them!
Post # 9
Wow! I have been begging for opportunities like this before I start my graduate program (to no avail). I can’t imagine someone wasting a chance like that!
Post # 10
Belle, what interesting timing. I’m job shadowing on Thursday and I’ve been mulling over how to be a “good shadower”…ask questions without annoying the crap out of the lady, but staying out of the way without seeming uninterested or bored.
But seriously, what is with this girl?! Watching Project Runway? Is she freakin’ stupid?! Do you get to report her to the school? I know the lady that I’m shadowing gets to fill out a form about me and the experience. Ugh. You have more patience than me—I would’ve left her there and wrote a note to the director. She does not sound like somebody I want to do any of my tests!
I want to smack her for you!
Post # 11
How insane!! However this reminds me that I had someone who wants to intern with my company… I should get on that and call her back lol
Post # 12
Sigh, what a waste of an opportunity! I’m still mulling over what my response would be if she had flopped a magazine at me and said “aren’t these shoes cute?” I mean… sigh. I don’t think I would have been able to respond!
Post # 13
Well I went off on her right before she left today. She went back into the waiting room to watch more tv and I came back in and said “would you like to come shadow now?”
Before she left she started talking about her chemistry undergrad degree like she was soooo smart. I said whatever. She looked at me surprised. I said “Hon, today there are lots of talented people out there who are fighting for good jobs. You have to work for them. Effort.”
I said that. And a few more things. When she left I didn’t even walk to badge her out.
It was insulting to hear that she already applied to the program and apparently thought she was getting in. Yes, I did call. Report given. Could you blame me? I worked my butt off in college. She’s not immune. I hope that acceptance letter never comes in her mail.
In my family, my dad worked 2 jobs to give us a good education and he worked his butt off to make sure that he covered whatever my scholarships didn’t. I appreciated all he did for me and made sure I did my best.
I don’t think she’d get in if there is any decent competition out there at all. Crossing my fingers there is!!! So what for good grades. Bleh. There’s more to a person than a gpa. There’s dedication and committment which accounts for alot in my book.
Post # 14
Wow! How frustrating and disrespectful. I am sorry that you got a bad apple, but there is no way she is going to make it past the interview phase of her graduate application. Sorry that you had to waste your time on this girl. Cheers to you for being so patient and civil with her! Way to be a lady in the situation!
Post # 15
Eesh. That chicky doodle needs to wake up and smell the sh*t that’s hitting the fan. I hope you don’t have to deal with many of those bad apples, belle! That would drive me crazy too!
Post # 16
Sounds exactly like this girl that’s in our lab right now. She’s volunteering, but she is still never around. I see her come in about an hour each day and she’s all valley girl “Hi guys, like what’s up? Life is all sunshine and rainbows”.
I don’t know what she thinks she is doing. She should either be in the lab and volunteer or go back to her school for the semester. I don’t know if she thinks my boss is going to give her a good reference letter for grad school or med school. But I don’t think he is. He’s noticed that she isn’t there too. And she never attends any of our lab meetings or department seminars. She just shows no interest whatsoever in anything.
College kids these days! I definitely agree that with this recession they should be trying harder to impress future employers or people who will write them letters for professional schools.
Way to go Bellenga! I’m proud of you for telling that girl off! I couldn’t confront our student like that, but she definitely needs it. Oh well, she leaves next week anyway.