(Closed) I'm back for more. Give it to me straight.

posted 4 years ago in Career
Post # 2
46675 posts
Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

MissTaken:  How did it go with your meeting with the president this am?

Post # 4
765 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

MissTaken:  Congratulations on your moment of clarity – that’s a huge step, and lots of people never figure that out. It also means that, if you want to change, you’re going to have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable for awhile.  I’ve been through it.  Are you actually in a leadership position with the othet staff members? If not, you might want to dial it back a bit and focus on being, “a coworker among coworkers,” meaning that is not up to you to find and fix other people’s mistakes.  Meaning that, as much as it bugs you, you’d have to let things go without trying to fix it. It sounds like it’s not appreciated, anyway, and it could actually be keeping the new boss from seeing how bad things are. 

Character building isn’t always fun, but it is possible and can change your life. if you do this “lower” job and find that you enjoy doing it, you may also find out (if you happen to be like me) that you’re not your job. It’s liberating.

Anyhoo, if you’re not actually a manager, maybe you could find a volunteer leadership role whete you can build your skills.

Post # 5
437 posts
Helper bee

I read your other post. I’m glad you had a moment of clarity, but I have a few comments.

Do you work in a hotel? I so, then the uniform is needed. I’m sorry, but if you are going into guest rooms you need to be in a uniform. How do you expect people to know that you work there if you are not dressed in a uniform?

Are you actually a manager? If not, then you need to focus on yourself and do your own job. You mentioned in the last post that you know you couldn’t learn the material or pass the tests to remain as a manager. If that’s the case then how do you expect to be treated as a manager? Spelling mistakes and date mistakes are all things that will be caught on a confirmation e-mail.

Post # 6
1017 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2015

I’m really proud you followed through with the meeting, that takes courage regardless of the outcome!!

A lot of colleges offer continuing education evening courses on leadership skills and conflict resolution skills. They teach you how to approach issues like someone always entering wrong names and dates.   From the example you gave, I would be not happy if someone at work pointed out my mistakes like that, it actually sounds condescending and isn’t adding value.

i would say to them, “I find it helpful to write the dates and then double check them at the very end of the task because dates are an easy item to mix up.  Going forward, I’d like you to do that and let me know if it is helping with your accuracy.”

But, I would say this because I actually am in a leadership position. If you are not, I would back off 100%.

It takes a lot of practice to give constructive criticism because the goal should be to help them to find a way to do their job that works for them, and something like missing dates and names may not mean the person is incompetent, they may just struggle with that particular thing.

Your meeting definitely could have gone worse and now it sounds like you know how to improve yourself !!!

Post # 7
366 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2014

MissTaken:  hi I remember reading yesterday’s post, and i have to agree with the other bees. Are you actually a manager? I know you said your new job was a desk job, in that case, id back off & let your manager deal with that sort of thing. Id focus on your position and stop trying to do other peoples! X

Post # 10
5226 posts
Bee Keeper

MissTaken: You’re not an asshole. True assholes never take responsibility for their behavior.

Post # 11
1231 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

You’re not an asshole, you sound smart and organized to me! To be honest it sounds like you may not be a good fit for this company, working under this boss any more.

I have worked at two small companies before and they often have management problems. Bad managers are mitigated at huge companies by sweeping HR policies, many layers of managers and the ability to transfer to different departments. At small companies, the quirks of the one manager whose word is as The Word of God can result in a very illogical, looking-glass-like work environment.

I have two best friends who work at small family-owned companies, and I’m sorry but they’re the worst. Your story reminds me of my particular friend, who was essentially the manager of her coworkers in that she was asked to keep everyone in line and on task, but her boss refused to actually make her the manager in name because he didn’t want to hurt the feelings of his relative, who was the manager in name but was totally incompetent, hence him asking my friend to keep everything running smoothly. My friend had no real authority to do the job, and her coworkers were constantly complaining to her boss that she kept trying to boss them. He would call my friend into his office and demand that she find a way to manager her coworkers without any authority and without making them mad. That is so similar to what your new boss did to you – require you to do the job of keeping everything running smoothly, but then not allow you to manage the workers the way you felt you needed to.

So, in conclusion, my takeaway: do what my friend did and start looking for a new job on the down low. Find one and let your boss torture some other poor soul!

Post # 13
559 posts
Busy bee

MissTaken:  Maybe the data entry person feels under great time pressure.

Are you breathing down their neck and making them nervous?

Are they getting enough and regular break-times?

Are they happy?

Do they need glasses? Maybe their eyesight has deteriorated with so much computer work!

It might be worth not talking about their mistakes, but taking them aside and just having a coffee together, showing you care about them as a person (rather than a precision input machine)

Adapt a very calm voice with them (- they could be unnecessarily worrying inside, for whatever reason)

Pointing out mistakes could make it worse. I’d try to build some rapport, make them feel at ease.

Don’t race past their workspace and don’t come up behind them. Approach slowly.

It’s hard to comment when I don’t know the situation, but even if they have a personal problem or aren’t sleeping enough, something is affecting them to make them careless and they need to be relaxed a bit.

You could make it your responsibility to ‘take care’ of them a little. Look out for their comfort and needs in the workplace and they might just relax into the role. 

It would be great if they could look forward to coming into work and see it as a nice haven.

If over time nothing improves, maybe they would prefer a different role, with less writing/input involved, maybe more of a talking role for example.

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