Post # 1
When we were looking at rings, we went to Shaneco and had their little diamond show where they explain all the differences in diamonds. When i was asking about clarity, the jeweler told us that he has looked at thousands and thousands and thousands of diamonds in his lifetime and that he has never seen an internally flawless diamond (this was the head-honcho at that particular Shaneco).
He said that they are so rare that they basically don’t exist. I was intrigued because I feel like I hear peopel talk about their rings, saying that it is an internally flawless ring.
Then I went to the ShaneCo website and did a search for diamonds. I wanted to see if they even had any IF diamonds:
Even with all the other paramenters wide open, they have NO IF diamonds of any kind, size or shape.
Then, I went to bluenile.com. They have lots and lots under the “flawless” option.
Any ideas as to why? Why does shane co not have any and why did the “master jeweler” claim to have never seen one of these? I feel like soo many girls on the bee say they have IF diamonds.
So if its an existing option, like on bluenile, why does shaneco not have any of them?
I guess I’m just confused. Not sure what my question is, just confused about IF diamonds I guess.
Post # 3
@Bexx: ShaneCo is really a glorified B&M.. a step up from Zales, maybe, but definitely not the mom&pop, biggest bang for your buck, your FRIEND in the diamond business!, they pretend they are.
IF is definitely rarer than some of the lower clarities, but when we were searching for diamonds I found it easy to find IFs in our price range! They were usually H-I in color, but still.
Flawless (as opposed to Internally Flawless) is a lot more rare.
ShaneCo just doesn’t have as big of an inventory as places like Blue Nile, James Allen, Ritani, etc do. It’s definitely weird that the “master” jeweler has never seen one, but I think maybe his title was liberally applied 😉
Post # 4
I’m sorry but that guy was just lying. Of course IF diamonds exist. I have had several not just bad but dishonest experiences at Shane Co when talking to their “diamond experts.” I believe they are instructed to shall we say fudge the truth when “explaining” diamonds to customers that they assume are largely uninformed.
Post # 5
GIA grades under 10x magnification. Often loupes can magnify up to 40x, so maybe that’s what he’s referring to- I guess there is the potential that an IF diamond might have flaws that are so small they aren’t visible under 10x.
But honestly, it’s ridiculous to say that IF diamonds don’t exist. There are even FL diamonds- flawless internally and on the surface.
Post # 6
Yeahhh… GIA says my IF stone definitely exists. Hah.
Post # 7
Well… nothing againnst Shane Co but, that guy works for Shane Co. They exist, but Shane probably doesn’t carry them (I mean, every retailer has a price point and a demographic, and a flawless diamond is probably outside the scope of their typical market). I bet you anything you can walk into tiffany’s and ask to see a Flawless diamond.
I got my ring and diamond at Ben Bridge and I doubt they have any IF’s either.
Post # 8
They definitely exist! I have a gia graded internally flawless diamond. I can imagine that they are more rare the larger you go though, but still, they definitely exist. I’ve looked at mine under 60x and although you can see some slight strategies on the outside, which is why it’s not flawless, there is absolutely nothing on the inside of the diamond. It sparkles way more than other stones I’ve had. I love it. When we were shopping we had sales associates telling us all kinda of things so that they could sell what they had in their inventory. I would be sceptical of what anyone says who profits when you purchase from them, especially diamond when it is so hard to know what is good or bad and if it even matters. I had an amazing experience purchasing loose diamonds from blue nile. They helped me find exactly what I wanted and when the stone we selected had missing ink in the laser inscription helped me pick another diamond. Easiest return I’ve made, even though I’m in Canada, and they are based in the USA!
Post # 9
@franklyn: Typo. Stratches, not strategies. I’m typing on my phone.