(Closed) International reactions to Trump vote

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Post # 90
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Busy bee

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j_jaye :  “My husband came home with the exact same attitude as you today. He had cancelled our 2018 cruise and 8 week holiday to the USA. His basic stance is that he will not give money to a nation that supports a leader who can hold such views. We were taking my parents on the trip and planning to visit a lot of the states that had 70% or more of the vote for trump. He said he wouldn’t feel safe taking us to those places given the colour of our skin and the fact that those states clearly support a racist platform.”

Well, that’s great. America is such an embarrassment, people are going to avoid even travelling here now. I don’t blame you. There are way better countries to visit than here.

Post # 91
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 1997

What Bill Clinton did or did not do is irrelevant. The candidate was Hillary Clinton. She is not a criminal, as the FBI attested to. Indeed, Colin Powell had a private email account, too. Trump is someone who has advocated other countries obtaining nuclear weapons, has suggested we “bomb the hell” out of countries he doesn’t like and thinks it is a great idea to criminally prosecute women who have abortions. If Americans had any “grace”, or common sense, they wouldn’t have voted for Trump.

Post # 92
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Buzzing bee

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echomomm :  Your post is so ridiculous— just because Hillary lost, in NO WAY have we told the women of our country that they have to go be barefoot, pregnant and abused. Have you checked the exit polls? The woman vote was not that far skewed for Hillary– are you assuming that roughly half of american women want other women to be abused, barefoot and pregnant?

A woman ran for president; that’s a GREAT thing for America. Hillary didn’t lose because she’s a woman. In the same hand, she shouldn’t have won votes just because she’s a woman. I looked at both candidate’s platforms, policies, views and picked on those criteria. I think many, many American’s did the same. Making Hillary’s loss into a “women are held down” argument is ridiculous, and misses the bigger picture.

 

Post # 93
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 1997

Not voting for Clinton is not necessarily a vote for oppressing women. Voting for Trump is. Trump is a “man” who has stated that it is okay to touch women in unwanted ways, that he wants Roe v Wade overturned and that he believes in criminal prosecution for women who have abortions. I do not think that people who voted for third party candidates are anti-woman because they didn’t vote for Clinton, nor do I think anyone should have voted for Clinton simply because of her sex. However, it seems pretty clear that a vote for Trump will give our daughters less respect and less choice over their own lives and bodies in the future.

Post # 94
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Buzzing bee

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echomomm :  I voted Trump (cue the pitchforks and 10000 comments coming after me). I didn’t vote for Trump because I believe in oppressing women, I don’t believe in keeping women at home, barefoot and pregnant (I work full time, no kids), and I certainly don’t want other women to be abused. 

Obama said it best earlier today– we’re not two teams anymore. We’re one America. Like it or not, Trump’s the president. Get back on board Team America. If you don’t like some of Trump’s ideas, that’s great! Get involved with your local, county or state government and help lead a change in a positive, and productive way. 

Sorry- I just can’t see the fear-mongering that is your post. This isn’t a vote to oppress women. If anything, this election has been great for women- no one cared that Hillary was a woman. We talked about her corruption, her policies, her track record—not her gender. Just as we talked abour Trump’s ridiculous statements, accusations, etc– not his gender. 

Post # 95
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Sugar bee

This is a thread for international Bees to discuss our perceptions about the U.S. election. There are plenty of other threads to discuss and argue about the election in general. Sheesh, Americans always the loudest at the party 😉 

Post # 96
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Busy bee

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italianbride0508 :  “no one cared that Hillary was a woman.”

If you don’t think Clinton’s sex factored into how people chose to vote, then you are delusional. But then again, you did vote for Trump, so that isn’t a surprise. One of my SO’s co-workers eloquently stated, “Ain’t no woman gonna tell me what to do,” and that’s why he voted for Trump. He isn’t in the minority, and it’s time to face that sick reality.

Post # 98
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2015

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catapple :  “f you don’t think Clinton’s sex factored into how people chose to vote, then you are delusional. But then again, you did vote for Trump, so that isn’t a surprise.”

 

Ding, ding ding!!!! hahahaaa

No offense to American bees but a lot of Canadians are saying

“what a bunch of f*cking idiots*….

Post # 99
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Busy bee

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Beegritte :  lol American bee here but this made me laugh bcus its so spot on. 

Post # 100
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Sugar bee

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mckey430 :  lol phew! Glad I didn’t offend! 

Post # 101
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Newbee
  • Wedding: June 2017

I’m US born but raised and live in Canada. It’s been a dark day. Many people are very unhappy here – in fact, in all of my meetings today the results of the election came up between groups of strangers and every one expressed extreme disappointment (including middle aged white men, Christians, women, young people etc. For what it’s worth). Then again there are people I know in the prairies who support trump as Canadians. Their favourite politician and past prime minister was voted out of office last year when Canada got sick of his fear and hate mongering and refusal to support environmental regulations (among many other issues of course). 

I don’t believe you can make the argument that people voted on policy. This election was all about public opinion, mainly due to the fact that Trump never had a policy to stand on. His election is the result of overwhelming fear of “others” and unimaginable cowardice. I feel so much sadness for all the people in the US who will be negatively affected by this outcome. I can’t imagine the fear that many people are feeling right now as they face 4 years of an uncertain future. 

Post # 102
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

I’m American. I’m so sorry world. This isn’t me, or my family, or my friends, or my students who are so sad and terrified today. I’m sorry. 

Post # 103
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Buzzing bee

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catapple :  Not delusional. Sure- there are still people in the world that pick who they vote based on gender, race, how someones name sounds, the lawn sign that they saw walking into the polls, etc.

As a nation- we didn’t talk about Hillary’s gender when we discussed her competency for president. It just didn’t happen. I am sure some people said “I won’t pick her because she’s a girl”. But guess what? There were plenty of people that didn’t want to pick Obama because of his race, Mccain for his veteran status, Mccain because Palin was a woman, Romney because he’s a white male. My point is that, to some extent, it happens. But it happens to EVERYONE. Not just Hillary.

As a nation, we discussed issues during this election. Like it or not, Hillary’s gender isn’t the reason she lost. Look at the voting %’s among women. It’s too close to say that Hillary’s gender is the reason she lost, that we set women back 50 years, etc etc. 

Susan B Anthony’s goal was for equality. A right to vote, a right to be considered. NOT a right to win, just because you’re a female. Hillary lost on the issues. Trump won on the issues. If Hillary won just because she was a woman, that would be horrible for women.

Post # 104
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Bumble bee

Canadian here. To the US residents that didn’t want TRUMP and are shitting themselves – the rest of the world is also shutting. By all means, you are welcome up here. Our Prime Minister is amazing. You know Obama has been flirting with moving here too…

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