Post # 1
So.. after reading all about the horrors of puppy mills on here last night, we had two family members go yesterday to adopt a puppy. He was purchased from a pet store which has several people complaining directly on their facebook wall that they need to stop purchasing animals from irresponsible backyard breeders.
I also have my doubts that this place is reputable as they allowed these individuals who live in a no pets allowed apartment complex to purchase a dog (clearly they aren’t checking into the home environments these animals are going home to). These individuals claim that they are “going to move soon” and have the puppy living with relatives. They are “actively searching” but can’t find an affordable rental with a big enough yard. (I should add that they have been searching for a new place to live for over a year).
Why do these places allow people to purchase animals who clearly can’t have them? And why do people purchase animals before they have a place to properly house them?
I’ll end my rant now. I’m just really sad for this dog, and angry that these places are more interested in making money than double-checking the people adopting the dogs can actually HAVE pets where they live.
Post # 3
I’ll jump in on the rant and say this is one of my absolute biggest complaint when it comes to pet ownership.
I’m wondering what pet store you’re speaking of because I know a few off the top of my head that are horrific. I drive by one in particular and everyday I see someone walk out with a puppy I wonder how long before that dog ends up in a shelter or worse. We’ve had so many dogs from this store in our hospital do to preventable genetic diseases and behavioral issues from being taken away from the mother at such a young age. This store charges $700-$900+ for these dogs when they are a dime a dozen in shelters all over the country.
Anyway, I don’t think people really understand what it means to be a responsible breeder. Breeding does not simply entail finding an intact male dog and an intact female dog then letting them go at it like wild rabbits. Proper breeding is done for the love and betterment of the breed. Responsible breeders rarely, if ever, make any type of real money from their litters. The dogs most be fully vetted, given high quality food, be tested for certain genetic defects to prevent them from being passed down the line(hip dysplasia in bigger dogs comes to mind instantly) they should be registered with a reputable kennel club, the breeder should be active in showing their dogs, they should have a proper breeding mentor and sat through several welpings before taking on breeding by themselves.
All of that is just the beginning stages. That doesn’t include a good relationship with their vet, knowledge of what to expect during pregnancy and labor, what to do if the animal is struggling to deliver, etc. Nor does it cover the excessive cost of emergency procedures like euthanasia.
And let’s not even get started on puppy mills. If it’s quite obviously cruel and unusual to lock women up in cages and have them continuously produce offspring until they die then I’d figure most people would be able to understand it’s also not something you should do to an animal.
Ugh! All of it! Working in vets and shelters I see so many things that make me sick. Everything from dogs with embedded ropes in their necks from being tied up in the backyard to dogs with serious genetic defects whose owners defend the scum who bred them in the first place to people who get certain dogs based on badass media stereotypes only to become angry, frustrated, and abusive when said dog(who was clearly not bred nor never meant to be badass) wants to friendly greet anything and everything it sees. I’ve seen people make leashes and collars out of shoe laces because they couldn’t afford the proper equipment. I’ve seen people shake their dogs and punch them in the face when they don’t listen. I’ve watched people shove dogs into oncoming traffic and off bridges. I’ve had people tell me they have to euthanize their dog because it sheds too much, it got too big, they can’t house break it, they’re having children, they are moving and can’t take it with them, etc. It pisses me off and breaks my heart because I only have so much room in my own home to take animals in.
I could nonsensically rant about it for hours.
Post # 4
We adopted two rescued kittens from Petsmart. No home visit, no reference check. They didnt even check our ID’s! Oh and they didn’t take credit cards for adoptions, so we paid cash. Kinda disturbing.
Post # 5
I adopted my kitty from the pound and they didn’t do any check on me… I was 17 and paid in cash. While I WAS responsible enough to have and care for the cat (she’s like my baby), there are lots of 17 year olds who are not!!
While I do support animal adoption from pounds, I find breeders are A LOT more strict with finding out where their animals go.
Post # 6
I actually started a huge fight with someone I used to be very close to on Facebook over this… His girlfriend got a kitten, they lived in a tiny apartment, didn’t bother to desex it for over 12 months so it peed on everything in sight, they complained about it, let it fall out the second story bathroom window not once but twice, all this terrible stuff.
Then one night, this guy gets on Facebook and asks if anyone will adopt the cat. When asked why, he says he just doesn’t have the room for it anymore. Oh what, now the kitten has grown into a cat you’re surprised?!? He keeps up these posts saying things like ‘if no one takes the cat he will have to go to the pound and be put down’.
So… I got mad. And got so angry he finally agreed to keep the cat. Apparently he didn’t like the smell of its kitty litter in the apartment. I have two cats, and I lived in a unit. If you clean the litter oddly enough it doesn’t smell!
Sorry – needed to rant about that one. I’ve volunteered with animals for so long, it breaks my heart that people don’t use any common sense when it comes to bringing animals into their life!
Post # 8
Some friends of ours just got a big dog. They’re moving soon, but right now they DO have the yard and space for him…but not the time. She is always at work, and he is just lazy. Our other friend who was living with them until moving abroad for work would have to constantly either take the dog out herself or remind them to. We got ready to go out one night, and she was ready to walk out the door without taking the dog out, fully knowing nobody would be home until late that night.
This is why I have cats. I love my cats, and play with them and treat them right, but they are also pretty low maintenance. I feed them, water them, cut their nails and make sure the box is clean, and that’s IT.
Post # 9
Exactly. My parents have 2 pomeranians in Ontario, one of them who was distinctly “mine,” and I was responsible enough to not take him to the East coast with me. Thankfully he was clearly a “family pet,” so it wasn’t like I was abandoning him. My mom paid for him and everything to do with him…he was just particularly attached to me and vice versa. I love my dog but I can’t be a good pet owner while I go to school full time. I couldn’t have a relationship or ever sleep over with someone. You can’t bring your pomeranian to a bar or a restaurant. My cat I WAS able to bring across the country, because cats require a lot less attention. My cat doesn’t need let out every 6 hours, and need walked. My cat can live in a condo, my dog needs a yard.
Ugh, people are frustrating.
Post # 10
Also, since I’ve pretty much hijacked the thread (I’m clearly bored and pet-recklessness pisses me off!!!)- pet irresponsibilty was one of the main reasons that Fiance and his ex wife of 6 months split up.
They on a vacation in another province and she spontaneously bought a ferret while they were visiting his grandma (without remotely considering that it’s RUDE) and wanted to keep it in my Fiance’s trunk… He was like “Are you serious..?” Yup- she was. So Fiance talked his old grandma into letting the thing come into the house, and his ex decided to “take the ferret on a walk” on its stupid ferret leash thing, in a parking lot. Apparently she’s a moron and thought it was logical to take the ferret OFF the leash and let it run around free.. which it did, and then saw a dog walking, and then ran into a sewer grate and drowned. She’d had it less than 12 hours.
Then she bought TWO MORE ferrets to compensate for the first dead one and never took care of them. She was on a student visa and only in Canada for the school year until April, so she just got the 2 of them put down when she left the country, because no one would pay her enough to buy them from her..
Like who the hell DOES THAT? This isn’t even ex-wife hatred, I just have no tolerance for pet irresponsibility!
Post # 11
The Kill shelters are what really get me. How in the world are they allowed to go on! Why is the ASPCA just sitting by and letting them continue? Giving dogs and cats a HORRIBLE living environment, no medical care and just sticking them in a big cage outside and then killing them because after 2 days they weren’t adopted! Like WTF…
Part of me wants to adopt a dog from theses places to save their life — the other part of me says these ppl don’t deserve a penny of my money.
We adopted my dog 2 years ago from an animal shelter that had recently rescued her from one of those kill shelters. She was on the list to be put down when they picked her up. A few days later me and my now Fiance adopted her. She was 4 months old, had worms, covered in fleas and ticks. Her ears were black from such a bad ear infection. A few days later she got really sick and wouldn’t move at all for like a day. We slept on the floor with her that night and the next morning the vet said it was kennel cough so she got put on even more antibiotics. We got home with her and she didn’t even know what stairs were. We spent hundreds of dollars in vet bills for her and she was worth every penny!
And I have to say I don’t think apartment living is the problem. Theres places that won’t let you adopt a dog if you live in an apartment. We had an apartment when we first adopted our dog. And I will say it takes more time and effort when you live in an apartment but she wasn’t hurt because of it. Heck people with no yard have the same problem. If people can’t take care of them in an apartment – they cant take care of them anywhere. Its the people not the environment.
Post # 12
@BooRadley: <— exactly. Thanks for posting that 🙂
We rescued both of our great danes. We also have a fluffy mutt who’s original owner had passed away. She belonged to a little old lady, and that woman promised to keep and love that dog until one of them died. I made the same promise to her, becuase that’s what she deserves.
Post # 13
This really pisses me off as well. One of my co-workers who I used to really like and respect recently posted a picture of one of her cats to Facebook asking if anyone wanted him, she didn’t want to take him to the pound, blah blah blah. She said she didn’t have time for him anymore but was keeping her other cat? I was repulsed and I went from thinking she was awesome to thinking she’s a shitty person pretty much overnight. I don’t have time is such a lazy, worthless excuse.
Post # 14
I completely agree about puppy mill pet shops – they make me so sad!
I don’t think not doing a thorough background check is cause for disdain, though. We adopted our kitty at a big adoption fair, and we looked at a lot of different cats before choosing our Lyra. One of the other cats we strongly considered was knocked out of the running because of the strict background checks that shelter mandated. We have a very spacious apartment (esp. by NYC standards), but our building is officially “no pets.” That restriction is certainly in name only, as I see people walking their big adorable dogs past the doorman every day. We are in no danger of having to give up our kitty, but we would not have been able to adopt from that shelter. I know there are tons of other “pet free” buildings that actually turn an actively blind eye to pet ownership, so it makes me sad to think that people who would make great pet owners may be discouraged by a rule that only exists on paper.
The shelter we ended up finding our kitty from did not do a background check, but rather gave us a thorough interview. I feel like that can be sufficient if the owner/manager has enough experience and can parse out the good from the bad.
Post # 15
I adopted my cat from a very reputable SPCA… it was even featured on Animal Planet once in a very positive light. They didn’t do any form of background check or living arrangement check on me. Thier facilities were immaculate and all the pets were very well cared for. I don’t really know of anyone that checks out adopters other than individuals that are registered breeders and go over the top in finding homes for thier babies.
Post # 16
@sarahbabs: The problem with people adopting when they live in a “no pet” apartment/house is that the landlord can enforce that rule at any time. When faced with a choice to leave their house suddenly and lose a deposit or give up a pet, most people give up the pet. I live in a college town and see this all the time with students, plus the mass drop-off’s at the shelter right before summer breaks. I’m not saying this will happen to you and its wonderful that you’ve given that cat a home, but people need to be 100% committed to keeping an animal when they adopt, and bringing them into a home where they’re not allowed doesn’t always ensure that.