Post # 1
After going through so much making this decision of what ring to choose… Verragio has said they will only do Rose gold in 20k and nothing less. (Which I don’t understand, I tried on an 18k ring yesterday, I have the photo of the specs on my phone) – but no, they will only let me order 20k. I actually had been planning on ordering 14k as I’ve always heard that is good as it is hard and resists against general bumps and scratches etc. Obviously I want the ring to last forever! Am I missing something here? Why are they telling me they will only do 20k and no less?
Post # 2
Are you going through a jeweller? If so, I’d try another jeweller for the 18kt rose. They might just be trying to upsell you on a setting. If this is directly from verragio, then I’ve no idea.
I dont think verragio does 14kt, but generally other places do. The rose just has a different tint.
Post # 3
My engagement ring is 14k I believe but I ordered my wedding band in 10k for greater durability since the band I wanted was available in both 14 and 10
Post # 4
Thanks for your reply. Online it looks like you can do 14k, but once I had gone through the whole process and chosen a ring and ready to order the store (jeweler?) Diamonds Direct said it had to be in 20kt and couldn’t be in anything less. I thought they were trying to upsell so emailed Verragio, who said that yes, it had to be 20kt. I’ve always heard not to get that high karat for something you want to wear all the time… so now that I’ve fallen in love with my dream ring I’m debating not getting it. So… thats why posting, I was wondering whether I’ve gotten the wrong impression on 20kt or if it really is soft and I should avoid it.
Post # 5
20k would be too soft for an everyday ring.
Post # 6
I have 18k yellow gold Ering and it is a thin band and it bends pretty easily and I get it reshaped every few months. My wedding band is 14K, there is a slight color difference, but I never need to get the 14K band reshaped, it is so much more durable. I’m hoping that eventually I can get my E ring reset in 14K.
Post # 7
Take picture of the ring and see if a small local jeweler can make it in 14k or even 18k. Of course it won’t be a branded Verragio, but the style will be what you want. You can even add your own little flair to it.
Post # 8
20k is way too soft for daily wear. Any details that are on the ring (milgrain, bumps, beads, swirls) will disappear. I assume they are specing that to achieve a particular color. Many reputable sellers use 18k for rose, but not 20k. No way.
Maybe it is just the style, but Whiteflash sells Verragio and they offers most setting in 18k. According to the online rep, some rings are only 20k and some are 18k. They also allow custom ordering of 14k in some. Maybe contact WF via their online service about the specific setting you were intersted in.
I would caution against trying to get a Verragio setting replicated by a local jeweller. They are incredibly intricate and you can find loads of theads of failures in the attempt. If you go that route and have the time, I’d check out David Klass or Steven Kirsch. But, first look at SimonG, Vatche, Ritani and Danhov. They all have rings in the same very intricate style.
If you post your dream ring, maybe the bees can show you some alternatives?
By The Way, the higher the karat of rose gold the more copper and the less gold. They should be LESS expensive in the higher alloys. I can’t belive they charge more for it! By The Way…Rose gold is a mixture of gold, silver and copper…specifially…83.3% gold and 16.67% alloy (copper and silver).
Post # 9
I think you meant the higher the karat, the less copper and the MORE gold. 18k gold has about 75% gold by weight. 14k gold, which is the lower karat, has about 58.3% gold by weight. The first therefore has less copper (and maybe silver) content, the latter has more.
The percentage of weight is important, because the actual alloys used can mean the actual weight of gold will vary (it depends on weight of alloys), but the percentage by weight should be close to the above.
Post # 10
I would (and have) no problem with 18k for daily wear, but I personally think 20k is very soft for daily wear, more so as your ring will have detailing, and prongs that are holding stones. It would be a bit different if it was a plain band and showing wear over time might be less obvious (or even an appealing factor!).
Post # 11
I’d honestly start from scratch with looking for another ring. 20k rose gold is way to soft for everyday wear. If it was a solitaire with a thick 5mm band I’d say OK but verragio is all about milligrain, scroll work and really fine twists of gold. You would be forever sending it back for repair because its not like every jeweller can do that type of work and even if they could I’m sure it would void your warranty. Maybe look into specialist jewellers who have the skill set to recreate your ring in 14k. The bees might have a good one who has/can recreate that level of work. You can try posting another thread with that particular question.
Post # 12
My partner initially went to Diamonds Direct when looking for my ring. But after going to other jewellers surrounding was told by many they had a bad name for being dishonest. Mine is 18k and I’ve had no problems with it.
Post # 13
I had a 19k white gold set before, with no metal issues. But according to the Verragio site, they work in both 14k and 18k rose gold, so I would look for another authorized Verragio retailer.
Post # 14
Yeah I don’t think verragio does 14 but 20 would not be my pref- especially for such an expensive and detailed ring!
Post # 15
My original e-ring was 14kt, and hubby and I bought matching 10k bands. 25 years later the pattern on the bands has worn down, but both rings still look good. For my 25th anniversary I got a new 14kt ring. Our jeweler said some rings these days are 18kt, but it’s too soft and won’t stand the test of time – especially as you wear it every day.
So im going to assume 20k is really soft and also not suitable for daily wear. I’m really surprised it’s an option for an e-ring.
Id take the photo to David Klass or other great jeweler (I recommend Joseph Jewelry – their work is amazing), and ask them to make something similar in 14k rose gold. I think 20k will just be scratched and bent in a few years and you’ll be frustrated at how it looks