(Closed) Is a .20 ct round diamond flawless better then a .50 ct flawed diamond

posted 6 years ago in Rings
  • poll: Would you pick a smaller flawless stone over a larger flawed stone
    Smaller flawless stone : (79 votes)
    52 %
    Larger flawed stone : (72 votes)
    48 %
  • Post # 32
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: February 1997

    Except, you see, a good jeweler can get different stones in, too. Your local jeweler could at least bring in a couple of other stones with middle of the road stats, GIA graded, for you to consider. For him to imply that you either have to choose a flawless .2 or a heavily flawed .5 because that’s all he has in stock is just simply not true. How do you think he supplies his store? He can get different stones for you to consider. 

    Additionally, him providing an appraisal on a ring he just sold is called conflict of interest. The appraisal means NOTHING as far as the value of the ring, even when it is done by a disinterested 3rd party. They are always ridiculously high and have no bearing on the price you should consider paying.

    Even if you refuse to deal with anyone other than this jeweler, these two stones are not the end of what you have to choose from. He wants to move stock he has on hand, and there is a reason he has a .2 flawless and a .5 I2 – it is because no one else wanted them.

    Post # 33
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: December 2014

    I think it is a bit rude to say a .20 flawless diamond is too small! I have a .25 flawless solitaire and I think it is quite elegant and beautiful. You should choose what feels right for you! This photo has bad lighting but the stone is super sparkly

    Post # 33
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: December 2014

    I think it is a bit rude to say a .20 flawless diamond is too small! I have a .25 flawless solitaire and I think it is quite elegant and beautiful. You should choose what feels right for you! This photo has bad lighting but the stone is super sparkly

    Post # 35
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    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: May 2013

    I’d go with the smaller stone!

    Post # 38
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    Blushing bee

    @mrstattoo10816:  

    I’ll echo what the others have said, the jeweler implying that a 0.20ct ‘flawless’ stone and a heavily flawed 0.5ct stone are your only two options seems very deceptive, if not an outright lie. Most jewelers have access to huge databases of stones, and can call in stones by their GIA certificate number from many different suppliers.

    I’m curious to what you mean by ‘flawless’. Do you mean flawless clarity? Nobody can tell the difference between a (GIA/AGS graded) flawless and a VS2 clarity stone, all else equal. Perhaps it’s ‘flawless’ color, so completely colorless? Again, nobody can tell the difference between a D and F color, and very few can tell between a D and G, yet the price difference (or what you have to sacrifice in the other C’s) is huge. Flawless clarity/color does not determine how sparkily a diamond is, that’s completely up to the cut quality. Do you remember what cut grade GIA gave both stones?

    I think we’re just trying to tell you that there is a happy medium. It’s just entirely likely you won’t find it with that particular jeweler. Like a PP said, there are no deals with diamonds. The store appraisal isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on, it’s a major conflict of interest and only serves as a ‘feel good’ number.

    Post # 39
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    @kimmo416:  +1

     

    @mrstattoo10816:  I think a mid clarity is best. I have an eye clean SI1, it’s a nice medium. Eye clean without the FL (flawless) price tag.

     

    @sunshinewish15:  Beautiful! Indeed, that is very elegant! Love the setting. 

    Post # 40
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    Bee Keeper

    Yes  the smaller one is better and the smaller one would hold its value (in fact appreciate in value over time).

    The reason the quality diamond always holds value (and the other doesn’t) is because you or someone else can always set the smaller diamond in a different piece of jewelry in the future. And it will continue to be as beautiful, even if it plays less of a central role in the design. But there’s nothing you can ever do to an I diamond that will make it good quality.

    Even the Queen surely has some .20 carat diamonds in some of her jewelry pieces (in complex designs and accents), and they are certainly all stunners. She won’t have any I clarity .50 carat diamonds, on the other hand.

    There is and always will be a role for quality diamonds of any size.

    Post # 42
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: December 2014

    @mrstattoo10816:  That is beautiful 🙂 in the end it is up to you, to me any size diamond can be beautiful but I would go for quality over size if that is what you like the look of too. Congratulations by the way!

    Post # 44
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: December 2012

    I am a Bee who belives that QUALITY trumps Quantity every.single.time !!

    So I have to agree with @joya_aspera: said in Reply # 39

    HOWEVER…

    I’d still want more info about this 0.20 Round Brilliant tho… cause as @plantobee: (Reply # 37) said there are some gaps in your info.

    You refer to this Diamond as being flawless… and that is all. 

    I am not clear if you are referring to just CLARITY … or you are including COLOUR in some way (the term here would be Colourless)… and you’ve given us no real info about the CUT (Quality / Grade)

    To be totally honest, I’d be suspicious of the bill of goods you are being sold if this is how your Jeweller phrased all this.

    Cause a reputable place would don’t only include the CERTIFICATION (and the related Description with the Stats I’ve mentioned)… but there would also be APPRAISAL info to.

    You would KNOW a lot more about this Diamond than you are presenting here.

    That is the bit that makes me more concerned than anything else you’ve written.

     

    Post # 45
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: May 2007

    @mrstattoo10816:  was there a pic? It looks like there is supposed to be an image in response #40 but I just see an empty square.

    I would go for the sparkly smaller one, what does that band look like? Congrats on getting a new ring!

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