Post # 1
A live blogger is following the proceedings:
It’s riveting! I learned a lot about the history and studies on marriage and homosexuality.
It’s quite surprising as well, how weak the arguments of the proponents of Prop 8 are; especially in a legal context. Any comments?
Post # 3
Thanks for posting the blogger link. I still can’t believe people voted for Prop 8. You’re right. Several conservatives have even come out w/ arguments against Prop 8. The arguments in favor are extremely weak, in my opinion.
Post # 4
Hey, I was just reading an article about the Prop 8 trials yesterday! Here’s the link:
Basically the article was talking about how this trial will likely be appealed to the Supreme Court no matter the outcome of the CA trial. The article also explains that many believe this will be the trial that finally takes a definitivie stand on whether banning gay marriage is constitutional. Of course, that means the Prop 8 trial will take years to conclude, but I think it’s going to be very interesting to follow!
Post # 5
I agree 100% that they have very little legal basis as an argument for same sex marriage. I argued in circles with my dad on this one. He kept picking up scriptures and opening them. I was like “No scriptures, give me a purely legality based argument” and he just sat there. He then came back at me with “Legality is not as important as what god wants…” <sigh>
Post # 7
cbott – Your Dad and my inlaws, both… Drives my Fiance up a wall and around the bend.
Post # 8
Holy cow, that is an amazing blog… the transcripts of the testimony are riveting!
Post # 9
My parents are VERY conservative. They actually don’t like my husband or I to be around any of my younger siblings without supervision because of our beliefs/ideals. We are agnostic, and although we never talk to the kids about it, they think we will try and “turn them away”. I was raised VERY thoroughly in the LDS faith, and when we left it became a huge issue.
The worst part is that my younger siblings are growing up thinking that athiests, homosexuals, feminists, democrats (yes, they are all thrown into the same category) are morally corrupt. Hopefully when they are older they will be able to make their minds up for themselves.
I agree, that blog is amazing! Thanks for sharing that link!
Post # 10
I know I am following it! Good to have a place to chat about the trial, being as this is another aspect of weddings: the equality to have one!
Post # 11
I’ve been following and doing a little bit of background research. I was very intrigued that Ted Olson was the lawyer that represented the Bush administration in Bush V. Gore and his co-counsel was the rep for Gore.
It turns out that up until the mid 90’s gay marriage was considered a “conservative”/libertarian issue. (I hate pigeon holing things as conservative or liberal) The thinking was that marriage would be a better option than multiple relationships and therefore many conservatives and libertarians at that time supported marriage for gays.
Blogger Andrew Sullivan, who was at one time considered quite conservative wrote an article advocating gay marriage back in 1996. Most gay rights advocates at the time strongly disagreed with him!
Divorce rates have dropped in areas where gay marriage is allowed and spiked in areas where gay marriage has been outlawed.
Post # 13
@cbott: Hahaha, feminists? That’s a new expansion to the morally bankrupt club. So random. Or maybe not. I’m from Los Angeles/NYC, so I rarely encounter neo-conservatives. I’ve heard the ole’ morally bankrupt line before being a Democrat meself, but have yet to get a “you are going to hell” line when people find out I’m a feminist. Yeah, Democrat women tend to be feminists, but it still cracks me up that they are singled out by your family specifically.
Post # 14
Oh, and for the topic at hand, yes, I’ve been following it closely! My sibling is gay, so this issue is very close to me. Whether I had a gay sibling or not, I’d still be apart of Courage Campaign, and I encourage all of you to join.
Post # 15
Nah, I generally don’t follow current events… I realize that makes me sound… I don’t know, calloused, but alot of it is SO depressing that it just hurts.
Post # 16
- Wedding: August 2018 - Oakland Manor
yes! Though I didn’t know about this blog – thanks for the link!