Post # 17
- Wedding: November 2013 - St. Augustine Beach, FL
@kmarie719: It depends. Most of the companies I work for have been able to wiggle on vacation time and salary but not on benefits like medical and dental. Asking for an additional day or two off shouldn’t be a dealbreaker if they like you but if you really want 1-2 days, ask for 5 and settle for 1-2.
Post # 18
@Westwood: Don’t ask after you start – negotiate with HR before you accept. Your boss doesn’t care what you get paid, only that you live up to it if HR tells her that you’re well compensated. Just accepting the job without negotiating a single thing only sends a message that you just roll over and take what’s given to you. Fight for what you deserve!
@MissCountryGirl727: Here, too. But what you start with makes a difference. I negotiated 2 extra days to begin with and have been adding to that for 6 years. Everyone else starts with 10 days if they don’t ask for more. The offer I accepted was a salary $2k higher, with 2 extra vacation days, with a $3k signing bonus that wasn’t included in my initial offer. I just had to ask.
Post # 19
@kmarie719: This what more or less what I would say, probably in am email:
“Thank you for your offer. I am very interested in the position and making a move to [insert company]. However, there are some details in the compensation package that I’d like to discuss with you. When would you have some time to dicuss this?”
Set up a time to speak on the phone or in person.
When that conversation happens, reiterate how excited you are about making a move to [company] and how you feel the position is a great fit. Explain the cost of the insurance at your current employer and ask that your out of pocket is the same. They will likely turn you down on this.
Then explain your current 401k benefits and ask for the same. They will probably turn you down on this, too. At this point, they may be feeling like they don’t have much to offer you.
Next say, “I’m sure you understand that I expect to be compensated fairly for making a move to [company] and I am more than willing to be flexible on compensation. I can afford to justify the additional expenses of health care and retirement if I can ensure my quality of work/life balance remains the same. I currently have [x] amount of vacation days annually. Can you match that?”
And see what they say. If they say they don’t think they can do it, ask to think over the offer for 24-48 hours. Then contact them. But they might contact you first! 😉 That’s basically the object of the game.
Post # 20
@solidarity: Great tips! I just got off the phone, and the sick and PTO are not one, and the sick is indeed unlimited so I am maintaining the same amount of days off, minus 1 holiday (just checked my current benefits and I thought we had more holidays than we do).
I wish there were courses for negotiation though because I am definitely feeling like I should have asked for more pay. Originally, I didn’t because it is a significant increase in what I am making now and is more than I thought would even be offered, and I’m not into negotiating just to try to get as much as I can from someone (and it’s on the higher end of the average for that role in the state).
But I didn’t consider the fact that I’m going from 100% 401k match to 25%. And she said annual performance reviews have raises that typically cap at 3%, so once you’re in the door you’re not going to be making much more unless you move into other roles.
I can’t go back now and overall I am very happy with the move. I will probably be saving almost $200 a month on gas alone, but I hope to use strategies you shared in the future for any potential negotiations.
Post # 21
@kmarie719: There ARE classes on negotiations! And come great books, too. Check local colleges for seminars.