Post # 47
But where are these “not supposed to” edicts coming from? It’s not like someone went up to the mountain top and received the 10 commandments straight from God himself.
“THOU SHALT EAT NO CANTELOPES, NOR NITRATED MEATS, NOR SPROUTS”
In reading this article, which I realize is not a scholarly, peer reviewed, journal, I feel I gained a lot of personal perspective regarding pregnancy risks. Like all women who came before us, we are trying to make the best choices with the information and resources we have. There are known knowns, known unknowns, and the frightening unknown unknowns. Do we have to live in fear because of the “known unknowns?” Not that I’m advocating for it, but women of previous generations smoked, drank alcohol, and probably ate whatever they were craving (including things like talc, dirt, and metal shavings, which are symptoms of iron or other mineral deficiencies).
I don’t think the spirit of the posts asking for group reassurance on having a sandwich with sprouts or eating frozen yogurt is blessing a risky activity, it’s normalizing the experience of a mother making sacrifices for her child. Even if it’s just a ball of cells.
Post # 48
There are many indigenous traditions of alcohol outside the western world. In India, various liquors (feni, arrack, handia) have been drunk for centuries, maybe even millennia. In Peru, the Inkas regularly got loopy on chicha (fermented corn beer). I’d be surprised if this list couldn’t go on and on, in fact…
Post # 49
I occasionally take a sip of DH’s beer if it is a new one we haven’t tried. I asked the OBGYN about it (paranoid me!) and she said it’s fine – she went on to say that an occasional 1-2oz is fine as well. I’m not brave enough to try, but if the OBGYN says that…
Post # 50
Whilst this is true, I was focusing more specifically on alcohol as a safer alternative to water
. S. Americans and Indians were brewing for ritual and social purposes, not as an alternative to other drinks.
It’s the alternative to water part that’s the important bit!
Post # 51
I believe Moscato typically has lower alcohol content so I can’t imagine it’d be a one way trip to FAS-land. Plenty of people still have an occasional sushi dinner or cheese from the no-no list. I still have my caffine (granted, I swapped my coffee out for black tea with milk because I can’t stand the smell of coffee anymore) and occasional shellfish. It’s perfectly fine.
At any rate, enjoy your Moscato. Everything in moderation!
Post # 52
WHOOPS! It’s too late to edit my earlier posts, but I just realized after reading drlolaz comment that I goofed up the author’s name: it’s Emily OSTER, not “Block.” (Same author as the WSJ article drlolaz linked. I was mixing her up with Jennifer Block, author of another good book, Pushed: The Painful Truth About Childbirth and Modern Maternity Care
Post # 53
@Tutti80: I say no, don’t do it. It’s only 9 months of your life and you can hanfle giving up a few things for that short time for the safety of your baby. I feel like if people can’t give some things up for that short amount of time, how are they going to be a parent and give up the freedoms that parenthood makes you give up? Just my opinion.
Post # 54
I have a PhD in neuroscience with a specialty in drug addiction, and I know that one glass of wine while pregnant would do nothing to my baby. That said, I wouldn’t do it. I’m not a big drinker; I often go out to dinner without having a drink just because I don’t feel like it. It’s definitely not that important to me and it wouldn’t be that hard to give it up for 9 months. Coffee would be harder, but I’d just switch to decaf. It’s a small portion of your life, but it’s one of the absolute most important, so personally, I would do everything I can to be healthy. I also know that sushi from a good restaurant would be safe, but I would still skip it while pregnant. I wouldn’t freak out if I accidentaly had a sip/bite of something “off limits,” but I wouldn’t intentionally order it when there are plenty of other options.
Post # 55
@Tutti80: In some places its fine in others its not. I hear in england alot of women drink wine( I heard from a friend that lives there), and here i tried to have a glass I got YELLED at by 6 relatives. My husband doesnt like it either. I dont see a problem with having a glass of red here or there, all in moderation right? I mean cigarettes are more harmefull to a fetus than alchohol. And people find it socially acceptable to smoke.
Post # 56
Ah, I guess I was confused by your wording: “Alcohol was used only in the western world.”
Regardless, it’s actually a myth that early modern Europeans drank alcohol instead of water due to sanitation concerns. Here are some links, if you’re interested — not in themselves scholarly, but they do contain scholarly citations.
(This topic touches on what I do for a living, so I can’t pass by the opportunity to post about it!)
Post # 57
ha, my italian grandmother told me to stop being stupid and have a glass of wine when I was pregnant with my daughter, just one of the many reasons she is my favorite person ever.
I’m pregnant with my second girl and I have had the odd drink here and there. I went to the spa with some girlfriends a few weeks ago and had an ameretto and milk and it was delicious! with my first daughter I had not one but 2 glasses of wine on my birthday and she is just fine. If FAS was caused by one glass of wine most of europe would have it. as far as people saying it’s “toxic and wouldn’t take the risk” are you eating 100% clean? I hope you aren’t eating sugar or anything packaged. I’m pretty sure eating fast food is just as bad for your developing fetus as a small glass of wine.
Post # 58
I had a glass of wine on occasion while I was pregnant. I spoke to my doctor about it when I was about 20 weeks and he said the occasional glass is just fine. FAS comes from binge drinking, not one glass of wine. Like others have said… everything in moderation.
Post # 59
- Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort
ancient Mediterannean people certainly did. I cannot speak to the medieval period.
Post # 60
I’m in the midst of doing this research and I highly highly recommend Expecting Better by Emily Oster, as others have to.
Also see this article: http://www.today.com/moms/new-study-shows-no-harm-moderate-drinking-pregnancy-experts-urge-2D11849699
Aspects of pregnancy seem miserable already (ugh, not looking forward to morning sickness). Why make things worse by denying things you might crave. I’m addicted to sandwiches, and no way am i going to avoid deli meat (and heating it up, ha, not going to happen). I am definitely going to have a cup of coffee a day, too. I don’t drink much but perhaps a glass or two of wine might be there too. It’s all about moderation and listening to your body.
Post # 61
1+ i wouldn’t want to wonder what if….