(Closed) Is it rude to ask a photographer if…

posted 8 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 33
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612 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

@urbanriceball:  If he is your favorite photographer of the bunch, you should tell him that! If someone is crazy about your work and likes you as a person, you will want that client. Also it’s better to have a basic package with someone whose work you love than it is to have a ton of “stuff” from a photographers work who you are less excited about.

Post # 34
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520 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

@NauticalDisaster:  Well, to be fair, she’s not “the client” YET. Remember, we come out for meetings, answer emails, do phone consultations all with no guarantees of making a dime off of any of that time, so yeah, you SHOULD be courteous. But I agree it’s okay to ask. I would only mention the off-season thing though, not “or cash” because A.) I don’t care if a client pays cash, paypal or check, as long as they pay, and B.) Throwing out two ways in which you’re looking for a discount is like saying you need one by any means necessary and the photographer isn’t worth what they charge. Just my two cents. Hope it helps!

Post # 35
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636 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

@PassionatePhotoLady:  I agree- whenever I asked for a discount from a vendor, I made sure to tell them I thought they were worth every penny of their original price (because I did). Sometimes I would even lay a budget out there. Like, “I love your work and I think you’re worth  every penny, but our budget is _____. Could you work with us since our wedding is on a Friday?  If not, thanks for your time!”

Post # 36
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2354 posts
Buzzing bee

@PassionatePhotoLady:  I understand what you say as a vendor, but as a client, I consider on the contrary, that you’re lucky if I hire you, plain and simple. You’re offering your services, and so do many others we will meet, so it is also your job to convince me that I need to hire you and that it’s going to be worth the money I’m spending. And yes, I might believe you’re not worth what you ask, especially off-season, if other vendors can do discounts. You might be the best, it doesn’t mean you’re the right match for me, and that can be determine through discussing and negociating. One vendor should expect a potential client to shop around and compare prices and ask for discounts, or extras. It is your right to refuse. But it’s not rude to ask. Fiance and I have gotten very good deals (and even gratuities) by negociating our way and we always have excellent and curteous relationship with anyone we’ve delt with. In the end of the day, we’re the one paying. So if a vendor is arrogant, or pushy, or not open to the discussion, that’s his loss. We’ll spend elsewhere and make another vendor happy. 

All this just to say : it’s business, it’s not personal. It’s not supposed to be ”offensive” to ask for off-season discouts, it’s business discussion. So I really don’t get why this would be rude, unless YOU are being rude in asking for it. But the question alone is business talk and it is essential before you sign anything.

Post # 37
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251 posts
Helper bee

@Candycane:  Thanks! Not really wondering about what photogs profit etc but why people think as soon as they say it’s for a weeding we A”inflate” prices. If I am asked to do a corporate event my per hour is really the same. I actually charge MUCH more for commercial work. There’s just this perception that when a vendor hears “wedding” we drool over cash ( haha) when really most people that provide wedding services only provide them for weddings. Thanks for your time. 

Post # 38
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251 posts
Helper bee

@continuumphotography:  I’ve gotten to the point where the only winter weddings I take are New Years because everyone is happy and understand that there will be no discount. I’m in Eastern Canada and our winters are not a cup of tea haha

Post # 39
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2831 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

@urbanriceball:  I totally agree with all the photogs on here that they should get paid for their work and that winter work is just as hard as summer work.

HOWEVER.

Not with getting butthurt that you want a discount.  It’s still a business deal.  In the summer there are more weddings, which means if you want a vendor, you’ll have to pay the price to book them or someone else will.  Simple supply and demand.  That works the other way in the “off-season.”  When there isn’t anything going on and it’s book your wedding (at a discount or not) or sit home… any savvy business person will be willing to negotiate.  They will realize that you have more options and more bargaining power. 

So – bargain away, just realize they have the right to set a price and not come down, and then you have the right to take your business elsewhere. 

Post # 40
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315 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

@NauticalDisaster:  How would you respond if your boss approached you and asked if you would be willing to work for, say, $2 less an hour all winter?  It isn’t personal, its just buisness. 

 

Post # 41
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520 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

@NauticalDisaster:  I didn’t say it was rude to ask… I said be courteous about it and don’t go in there with the mindset of being entitled to anything. If you disagree that you should be courteous than no, the vendor is NOT lucky if you hire them and they may in fact turn down your business. You seem to think all of us are desperate for business and you can act however you want because you are gracing us with your business, and that’s insulting and completely untrue. Not only do I turn down business all the time. I actually refunded a client and refused to shoot their wedding once for being excessively rude to me via email.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Post # 42
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

Not a wedding photographer, but I do find the way most people ask for discounts to be rather off putting. I think a lot of people sometimes feel entitled to them. In my opinion it’s more polite to ask someone if they can work with you to create a package within your budget, because you love their work, but you have limited funds. Its not okay to say you would like a discount because  the weather is cold and you don’t think they’ll get many other bookings anyway (which is essentially what you are saying when you ask for an off season discount). Just my 2 cents.

 

Post # 43
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2010 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

It’s not rude to ask but it would be rude to take umbrage if giving a discount was politely declined. There’s no such thing as “out of season” here, to be honest. The workload is the same as at a summer wedding but made more complicated by light and weather. 

Post # 44
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437 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: February 2014

Asking for a discount and discussing what can be worked out for your budget are two different things.

 

We really love your work and we only have x amount in our budget.  Will you be able to offer some otions that fit in our budget?

 

Not its off season ‘can we have a discount’. Thats rude.

Post # 45
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77 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: January 2014

I will just have to respectfully agree to disagree with the people who didn’t agree with me.

 

🙂

Post # 46
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437 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: February 2014

@Candycane:  Not every vendor jacks the price! I charge the same for ALL event shooting. I have an hourly rate, period. If you’d like to see my website to see I dont I can show you… Dont lump us all together as you have no idea how every vendor runs their business. Frankly, I dont know one photographer in my area that jacks the price for a ‘wedding’. For me and event is an event, I dont believe in that. I work just as hard at an event as I do a wedding so I charge the same. 🙂

 

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