Is it time to begin looking for other employment or a store transfer?

posted 3 months ago in Career
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Worker bee

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sweetkat92 :  I don’t think not excusing doctor’s notes is legal, but I could be wrong. Even if it’s legal, the manager is still creating a public health concern because he/she is making a huge incentive for sick people to come in and check customers out, handle food, etc. 

It’s better to look for a job while you have one instead of waiting to be fired. It takes some of the pressure off and gives you room to negotiate. 

I’d start looking for a new job ASAP. In my experience bad managers only get worse. And this causes a snowball effect where morale goes down and coworkers start to become miserable (understandably). 

Post # 3
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Helper bee

To be quite frank, does your company have a confidential ethics hotline? I’d report the store mgr not accepting sick notes. It’s one thing to replace staff because they aren’t good, it’s another entirely to do so for ego.

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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

No job I’ve had has ever accepted sick notes, so I truly don’t think this is an ethics concern, or at least not an actionable one. It does like this is a toxic workplace though and I don’t mean to defend it.

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Sugar bee
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RoseandShine :  you’re going to have to explain this to me. How can a company not accept doctors notes? If you’re so ill that a doctor has signed you off work then your sick… what’s not to accept (genuine question. I’m a Brit and I’ve never heard of that here)

 

OP – id look for a new job but also report this behaviour to superiors 

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Helper bee
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I second 

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Twizbe :, how can a company not accept a doctors certificate/medical note? If you are genuinely ill and can produce supporting documentation you are more than entitled to use that leave. FWIW I’m in Australia and have never heard of this before (even when I was younger and working in a bakery/retail etc). 

OP, look for a new job with a less toxic work environment. Ideally you want to work somewhere that inspires you to come to work and not dread going in each day – especially dealing with politics like the ones you mentioned above!

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Bumble bee
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Twizbe :  I’ve never worked for any company who accept sick lines from your GP (I’m in Scotland) it completely depends on your companies sick policy.

when I worked for the government I was a trade union rep and they sacked someone for work related stress, she took them to a tribunal and lost because we’d followed the absence management policy.

ive also worked for BT, Sky, Thomas cook and currently a care home who also don’t accept sick lines, my fiancé’s workplace (government again, but different part) also don’t accept them, neither do police Scotland, the NHS and various others 

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Sugar bee
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whoswho :  but explain what does that mean ‘not accepting’

ok I’m in England and every job I’ve had if your sick for more than 7 calendar days you have to produce a sick note from the doctor. 

How can a company not accept a sick note? So if you have cancer and the doctor signs you off can the company just day ‘sorry we don’t believe this medical professional and you have to come to work’

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Bumble bee
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Twizbe :  well they accept it but it still counts towards being sick. I could have explained that better, so for example if you get a chest infection and are signed off for 22 days that’s 1 absence and first stage disciplinary. If you are then off for 1 day because you call in for a cold then that’s stage 2. 
if you then go off for cancer and are off for 6 months plus that’s stage 3 and will likely end up in termination as you’ve had more than 3 absences in 12 months.

 

however if you’re off January 2018 with a chest infection and go stage one and then aren’t off til feb 2019 it just resets. 

so while your doctor has said they believe you’re unfit for work your workplace don’t have to take it into consideration at all. 

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Sugar bee
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whoswho :  ok so I understand now. Like here sickness with a doctors note still counts as a sickness absence. However some things like cancer are counted as a disability from time of diagnosis so are treated differently. Sickness due to pregnancy or disability is also different. 

they also aren’t as quick to go to termination. A first trigger of the sickness policy is a support meeting unless it’s a clear faking it situation 

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