Post # 17
I think that statistic for Australia is wrong. It is actually more around 35% (according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics) and is declining dramatically.
Male circumcision does the exact same thing that female circumcision does- removes nerves that increase pleasure during sex. I just don”t get why there is such public outcry about female circumcision but male circumcision is allowed to continue. Do readers really believe that circumcisions carried out on males in third world countries are done in better conditions than females? Afraid not- they are carried out in the same unsterile conditions.
As far as the religious aspects of circumcision- I agree that if an adult chooses to do this to their body that is 100% fine but it should not be a decision made by the paretns for a child.
posted these medical positives/reasons for circumcisions were conceived 140 years ago you know much the same way that trepanning, leaches/blood letting, laudanum, radiated water, cocaine and lobotomies were used as great/breakthrough treatments!
Post # 18
I think it’s more cruel to enforce an age limit! If a parent wanted to have their son/s snipped, wouldn’t it be bettter to have it done as early as possible so they do not have to remember/go through the pain of having it done as adults!!
My brother elected to have his done when he was 35, I’m not entirely sure of the reason but they had difficulty TTC. He said he would rather have his toe nails pulled out than have that done again. I imagine it would not be very pleasant every morning……
I personally wouldn’t do it to my son, but I’ve got nothing against parents who are for it! *shrugs*
Post # 19
I don’t really have much interest in doing it to any of my potential sons, but I’ve never really heard that anybody who had it done remembers it enough to believe its extremely cruel either. It’s always been a decision i just figured I’d leave up to my husband one day. Dh is going to kill me for this tidbit, but he was circumsized as a teenager and also said it wasn’t THAT bad, but He intends to do it to our sons as babies since it would be better to not remember.
Post # 20
I’m also in Australia. My Fi is and 1 of my son’s is, my eldest isn’t as we were told we couldn’t get it done. In MY opinion i think it’s cleaner. It was MY choice and if i ever had another son he would also get done.
Post # 21
For Australia 60% is for the total population, not newborns. This link (2002) says “In the last 30 years, circumcision rates have dropped in this country (Australia) – from around 90 per cent of baby boys circumcised, to just 15 per cent today” http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s586954.htm
Post # 22
I would do it as soon as possible to any of my future sons, a baby won’t remember but an adult will. I’m not sure, but won’t it be more painful the older you are? (both the procedure and healing wise)
Post # 23
I personally would not have my sons circumcized. Fiance is adamant that they will be. Let’s hope that, if we do decide to have a baby, it’s a girl. :/
One of my boyfriends was uncircumcized. He had no premature ejaculation problems and kept himself meticulously clean. The sex was just as good as any other sex I’ve ever had. His parents were European and from what he said, it’s not as popular a practice over there as it is here in the U.S., so they just never saw a need to have it done to him. I don’t really see a need either, unless there’s a genuine medical/health-related reason to have it done.
Post # 24
@MzJynxie: I’m not sure, but won’t it be more painful the older you are? (both the procedure and healing wise)
But couldn’t that be the case with any elective procedure?
And what about men who are circumcised as infants then want to reconstruct as adults?
Just playing devil’s advocate here 😉
Post # 25
I was going off 2010 ABS statistics which is more relevant than 2002 data!
Post # 26
DH and I both agree that if we have a son we will get it done. I used to be indifferent, but after being a nurse for 9 years, and seeing what I have seen, I definatly think it’s cleaner. As for being cruel, I think having this done when they are young is much less cruel as they won’t remember it then when they are older.
Post # 27
Do you have a link? I’m not trying to start an argument, but 35% sounds high. This government health service link says “In Australia today, less than 10 per cent of boys are circumcised”. http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Circumcision
Post # 28
@dolphi99: I used to be indifferent, but after being a nurse for 9 years, and seeing what I have seen, I definatly think it’s cleaner.
I’d be interested in hearing what you’ve seen that led you to sway your opinion 😛
Post # 29
Well, FI’s Jewish, and it’s a pretty common thing to do in the US, so I’d likely have my sons circumcised. I’m sure it’s painful for a baby, but fortunately they don’t remember it.
On the bright side, foreskins from circumcisions are commonly used in skin grafts. My grandma had a skin graft on her leg years ago, and it saved her life. So, uh, thanks, little dude, whoever you are.
Post # 31
whoa, interesting Canadian statistics… Im 29, have been with my share of men in the past, and have JUST now, for the first time only, seen an UNcircumsized penis by way of GOOGLE. haha. I’ve never actually seen one in real life – I assumed by my previous experience that the majority of Canadian guys were circumsized!
TBH, after looking at it, I’m kinda weirded out. I think if I had a kid I would probably get the procedure done. It just seems easier in the long run (no teasing, less hygiene issues).