Post # 17
@echolove: Cocaine is not the same as the coca leaf, which has been consumed by native incas and sold as tea in stores in Latin America. I am pretty sure it is the same with opium. It is very different than marijuana in that marijuana is not processed but usually consumed in it’s natural state. I think you implied that but then mentioned that cannibis is prepared and it usually is not prepared any more than tea would be.
I don’t think there are any reports of marijuana overdoses leading to death. I believe it is safer than alcohol to consume. To answer whether it’s considered a drug, you should first define drug. Is it only a drug if it’s illegal? If that is the case, then is it not a drug in Amsterdam?
Very contraversial topic, I hope everyone behaves and can respect each others perspective :-).
Post # 18
Technically speaking, yes you can overdose on marijuana, but that doesn’t mean that it automatically means death. Overdose just means took too much, after all. Some people can experience extreme paranoia, increased heart rates, and hallucination/disorientation. “Some marijuana users report a hangover similar to the hangover experienced after binge drinking.” From http://www.allaboutcounseling.com/library/marijuana-overdose/
I don’t understand why people don’t consider it a drug just because it’s from nature. FTR I have nothing against it, but I’m definitely amused by the rationales people employ.
Post # 19
drugs originate “from nature”. That’s why they work on us. We have molecular receptors for things that occur in nature, and drugs take advantage of these receptors. It’s just like when people try to explain that something must be more healthy by calling it “all natural”. You know what else is all natural? About a whole crap ton of poisons, viruses, bacteria, and parasites. Nature is not always your friend.
Post # 20
exactly my point! I have nothing against it, but admit its a drug. Lol
very good points!
Post # 22
It’s a drug alright. Anything that has any kind of effect on your brain when ingested is a drug.
Post # 24
It is considered a gateway drug because most people who do harder substances started with marijuana. They often turn to those substances because they build up a tolerance and can no longer achieve the same high as they once did or because of social peer pressure. Note that this fact that marijuana is a gateway drug does not negate the fact that there may be other gateway drugs and of course, not all people who do marijuana turn to harder substances).
One study found that youth (12 to 17 years old) who use marijuana are 85 times more likely to use cocaine than kids who do not use pot, and that 60% of the kids who smoke pot before the age of 15 move on to cocaine.
Post # 25
No duh it’s a drug! Pot heads tend to come to the rescue of weed because they think anyone labeling it a “drug” is also labeling it to be as bad as the other “drugs” like heroin, meth, crack etc.
Post # 26
It is a drug and of course it’s possible to overdose, just not easy for most people. You can even overdose on water, so, that really doesn’t tell you much by itself.
As a stimulant, sometimes it has triggered psychosis in people vulnerable to psychosis. Since caffeine is another stimulant, it can cause the same effect, though it is usually not as powerful.
I would say it’s safer than most drugs, prescription or otherwise, but it’s folly to assume it -or anything people can put in their bodies- has no down sides in any circumstances.
Post # 27
Illegal, depending where you live these days, not where I am.
Post # 28
Statistically, death directly from marijuana overdose is extremely rare. The CDC reports that between 1999 and 2007, there were 26 deaths with marijuana as an underlying cause, in the United States. This was out of a counted population of 2,615,523,905. When it comes to smoking, most statistics say it will take about 800 joints in a short period of time to actually overdose a person to the point of death. A person should be vomiting or passed out well before this point. When used long term, the smoke itself does contain chemicals that can eventually cause respiratory issues, such as COPD or cancer.
Secondary from overdose, the CDC and the National Highway Traffic Administration have shown that in the 1990s, nearly 20% of drivers killed in traffic incidents had narcotics in their system. During autopsy, the most common drug present was marijuana. This was followed by cocaine, benzodiazepines, and amphetamines. In the 2000s, the number appears to be closer to 25%.
Recently, there are newer “marijuana” synthetics on the market. They are known by names such as K2 or Spice. These are actually directly proving to be much more dangerous than natural marijuana, and there are fatalities being directly related to overdose.
Post # 29
I feel like I watched a show recently on K2 or Spice… I forget.. and it is legal to sell in shops that don’t allow minors in certain areas??
Post # 30
I did too. There are people out there trying to get these smoke shops to stop selling this spice and K2.
Post # 31
It is a drug, obviously. But among my friend group (most of us smoke) there’s weed and then theres “drugs” (referring to any “harder”/other drugs) – if you asked me if I did drugs I’d probably say “no but I smoke weed.”
I think it should be legal, I think that just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it’s inherently worse/more dangerous/whatever than other drugs that are legal, and to assume that is naive. I don’t think it’s 100% harmless, it’s not for everyone but it’s great for a lot of people. I’m both a medical marijuana patient and a recreational user. It’s a fun thing to do with my friends and has greatly increased my health and well being. I don’t usually try to tout these benefits to non-smokers though because there’s this icky (if often-supported) stereotype of potheads who spout all this nonsense about the benefits of weed to people who don’t want to hear it. (Like “it’s from the earth”- well so is a lot of bad shit, that’s a dumb argument, quit making us all look bad!!)