(Closed) Is there a conspiracy theory you actually believe ?

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Helper bee
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mrsmay07 :  Well, even though I hate to admit to it I actually have noticed a few odd things here and there; like the ones you mentioned and a few others; but have always just attributed it to getting older and having faulty memories. And I’m also an Aspie, so there are moments when I seriously question myself, lol. Who knows though…I guess anything is possible considering how little we humans actually know about the way the universe works. 

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KingsDaughter :  hahaha….love the term ‘ Slytherin masquerading as a Hufflepuff’ for someone duplicitous!!!

#SlytherinMasqueradingAsHufflepuff

I like Kate….she’s one classy girl and handling it all with grace and dignity. Good on her because I’d cut and run if I had to live in a fish bowl for love! No amount of creature comforts would make me wish to give up my privacy or that of any children I may have!!! All I can say is thank god Prince Harry finally got the message and stopped calling me up for a date……  😉 

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j_jaye :  “In a lot of the instances it was stated in the (2012) report that it could have been not a dingo.”

 

That is not correct. The closest it gets is the following words: “It would have been very difficult for a dingo to have removed Azaria from her clothing without causing more damage than was observed on it. However, it would have been possible for it to have done so.” Nowhere does it say it could not have been a dingo, and of course it concludes that it was.

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BakerBee16 :  that buzzfeed article is entertaining, but that’s about it. check out the definition for “confabulation”. the human brain is easily confused. 

(edit: I promise I’m not trying to snark. maybe you posted that link all in good fun. and it was a fun read!)

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SithLady :  +1 this. My husband is a scientist and I myself was in science before becoming a doctor. There is no way that a scientist who has dedicated a lifetime to their work would ever hide a cure if they found it. 

After working in Haematology, I can 100% guarantee that my colleagues and I want nothing more than to find something/ anything that can help their patients.

I fully agree with you that the complexity of these diseases/ conditions is insane and what people may not realize is that  the amount of work that goes into even a small step forward is immense and could actually have been someone’s work over decades. 

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arosebyanyothername :  I saw that picture as well and nothing seemed out of the norm to me about how they filed the children out. 

Im definitely not going to say for a second that I could understand what the teachers and students experienced that day. No one can. However, having been on school campus when an armed assailant was reported has taught me nothing but that organization is utilized by staff and students in a lot of scenarios to the point where I wouldn’t question it with Sandy Hook. At one point, we had to be cycled from one building to the next. We still had no updates on where the man was on campus even our teachers didn’t have full update. However, for the protocol they had at the time and the protocol they had to manufacture for the moment’s circumstances, the teachers stood in checkpoints outside while we all in a line walked (calmly..though none of us felt calm) across the campus outdoors to the next building. It was one of the worst walks imaginable especially considering the teachers whom were essentially blocking us  or putting their bodies first to shield potential harm.

A small child, even more so, could be even more disoriented or confused at the events than an adult or teenager. Children also will follow what is “safe” which in many cases is your teachers and police. Even in elementary, I remember our evacuation drills and it all involved single file lines and walking slowly. 

Teachers above all else are there for their students and I have never heard of a school shooting where any teacher compromised doing the best for their students whether making sure they evacuated per protocol or something more extreme like putting themselves in the way of danger for their students.

I think to judge interviews is also faulty because no one can know how you would be outward in appearance or even verbally after such a horrific event. 

The lack of pictures is just senseless because there is no way they’re going to release the graphic photos for the families to have to relive or encounter (especially the families that live with the losses).

I could also be wrong but I was pretty sure one of the interviews mentioned a teacher barricading herself with her students and refusing to open the door until the police proved they were police. 

Post # 157
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Blushing bee

Read up on the Denver airport. I don’t believe in the lizard thing but definitely an interesting and creepy read. Even just the actual murals at the airport are nuts.

A conspiracy theory that the government actually confessed to is the MK Ultra mind control testing done in the 70s. Also very interesting and crazy what they actually did to people.

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aussiemum1248 :  I did NOT once say there was not money to be made, I implied that the pharmacutical companies can pay more. This is MY personal opinion based off of MY personal experiences on this specified topic. My brother and sister-in-law (microbiologist) are both MD’s and I have my doctorate, so this topic has been discussed countless times. The majority of doctors would disclose a cure for an illness to save lives and gain recognition for their work. However, for the “right price” there are doctors or people that would withhold information and not release it. 

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mm0601 :  Can I ask what your personal experiences are on this topic that have led you to believe this? Have you or your relatives been approached and asked to hide a cure? How is it that physicians even come to know about these supposed cures?

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SithLady :  In every field or job there are people who genuinely love their careers and people who are only in it for a financial gain. I have worked with and known phenomenal doctors/scientists and those selective few that shouldn’t be practicing or lost their license to practice. My sister-in-law works for a lab and shared some stories with me pertaining to pharmaceutical companies (she’s also worked with some too) As for your last question, there are clinical pathologist that might only work in labs and don’t see patients too often or there are some that prefer seeing patients over working in a lab (everyone has their speciality and preference as you already know.) There also might not be any cures, or testing is available but it is too expensive, no one knows, that’s why it’s a theory. 

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SithLady :  it’s not so much that big pharma is conspiring to hide cures, it’s more that it’s too expensive to promote certain treatments/tests.  

I am personally familiar with a cancer test they had a few years back.  The test could detect the reemergence of cancer cells (breast, prostate, lung cancer) early on in people who had been in remission.  It was a simple blood test.  

The problem is that while the test was good, it was not perfect.  It had false positives, etc.  Doing trials and getting FDA approval is incredibly expensive.  The drug company that made the test wanted to spend the money it could have spent on promoting and approving this test on getting it to the next level.

I see where the conspiracy theories can come from.  If you think you or your loved one could have benefited from this, you might feel that there is some sort of nefarious conspiracy.  But it really isn’t.

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holycrapimgettingmarried :  undecided There were six manned missions to the moon.  Not one.  There are also retroreflectors on the moon, left there by NASA.  You can bounce lasers off them if you’re in any doubt that we went there.

Post # 163
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Busy bee
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Last year, I had my juniors write an argumentative research paper about a controversial topic. Many chose topics they already felt strongly about – like abortion or gay marriage or the death penalty – but a small faction of boys chose to write about particular conspiracy theories that intrigued them. One wrote about George Bush as the mastermind of 9/11, one wrote about the government creating HIV/AIDS to try to speed up the poverty/famine cycle in Africa so the US could seize the land, and one wrote about the lizard people thing. By the end of the unit, none of them believed their conspiracy anymore because I forced them to analyze ALL aid the evidence, rather than cherry-picking from questionable sources.

It was fun to watch them shift from believing to doubting. I think this project developed their critical thinking skills far more than their peers, who played it safe with a topic they were already pretty informed and decided on.

The Mandela Effect “examples” that rely on alternate spelling make me fucking BATTY. You have been classically conditioned to make language fit the pattern of English. You spell out phonemes based on standard English practice because it has been drilled into you and you adjust new words to these schemas, whether they are spelled that way or not. You don’t “remember” the words being spelled one way or the other, you make logical inferences about how a thing should be spelled in English and are shocked when a word’s spelling doesn’t fit neatly into your existing schema. 

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allywed :  Oh I don’t think that’s up for dispute, I said it in my first post a few pages back. Pharmaceutical companies aren’t charities, they are businesses and business need to make money. They will absolutely choose to follow certain lines of research and cancel other projects because one is more potentially lucritive than the other or one is just too expensive to pursue. Any scientist butthurt that their favorite project got canceled can tell you that. Usually this is happening for lack of positive results though, not because a drug candidate is working too well and might just be a cure (we can’t have that). Academics have the same issue, funding is tight and we have to pick and choose what we can research. It’s not worth sinking a bunch of money into a long shot. That is a lot different from KNOWING that there is a cure and deliberately covering it up. 

As another example, I study a potential treatment for traumatic brain injury that is cheap (we literally get buckets of it) and readily available (it’s already in a lot of processed food). It works pretty good in mice to minimize damage associated with TBI. Now, do I think big pharma is going to want to study this compound? Hell no, there is no money to be made. But they’re certainly not preventing us from publishing our data. 

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mm0601 :  I don’t disagree that there are bad people in every profession. My question is how is it that only the seedy doctors are the ones coming up with cures? And how is it that big pharma finds out about them before anyone else? How are individuals even coming up with cures? Gone are the days of some scientist working in his home lab and discovering something by himself by testing it out on himself or some homeless people that he kidnapped. Everything nowadays is a team effort with a great amount of oversight. In order to KNOW something is a cure, dozens of people would also need to know that and I don’t think it’s reasonable to assume that big pharma is paying them all off and nobody says a word and just pretends like the study didn’t work (not to mention also paying off the “cured” patients). Now if you’re talking about “natural” remedies, there are plenty of academics that study those and publish their data, it’s not a secret. 

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soymilk :  You must have me confused with someone else.  I do not think Sandy Hook never happened, I know it damn well it did and as an educator I am familiar wth code red situation responses.

I beieve a school was named in honor of Victoria Soto’s heroic actions that day.

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