(Closed) Is there a conspiracy theory you actually believe ?

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Post # 181
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Honey bee

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merighthere :  it’s ok, I’m judging enough for the both of us 😛

Post # 182
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Sugar bee
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mm0601 :  “The legal system and the way labs are run are dramatically different in America versus some other countries. There’s MD’s who lost their license, still practicing in other countries. There’s been several cases of doctors performing surgeries in other countries in their homes and patients dying. Although it isn’t common, it Does happen. It also comes down to wanting to fund certain projects or tests. If more funds were given to certain research projects there could be more cures or information on illnesses or diseases.”

I’m not following your train of thought at all. Everything you said in the quoted comment is basically true. But what does any of it have to do with your alleged “big pharma” conspiracy to bribe researchers to cover-up groundbreaking discoveries? (Instead of patenting and marketing the presumably highly profitable “cures”?)

 

 

Post # 183
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Bumble Beekeeper

Wow. This thread makes me sad. And more than a little concerned for the future of our civilization. 

Post # 185
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Buzzing bee
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I don’t think I believe in anything super crazy. I do think Princess Diana was likely murdered. Though I am not sure who ordered it. I also think there are loads of “missing” kids killed by their parents but other than that… I can’t think of anything. Maybe JFK? I think there is more to it than what we know, same with Marilyn Monroe. But those are mostly just murders that I think are unsolved. 

Post # 186
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Helper bee
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WestCoastV : I’m stating that there are good and bad doctors. Pharmaceutical companies would lose millions if patients no longer needed medications because a cure or other preventative measures were discovered. Of course they could receive millions and profit as well if anything was discovered. Again, I’m not stating there are cures or not. You don’t know and neither do I. I’m only giving MY opinion and your opinion isn’t superior or inferior to mine or anyone else’s. It’s a thread about people posting their opinions and everyone is entitled to one.

Post # 187
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Sugar bee
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fourfrenchfries :  thank you for the work you are doing with your students! This thread as well as some things I see routinely on social media, has reinforced to me the importance of teaching critical thinking skills. I remember the best teachers I had would push back on faulty logic and flawed thought processes and also stressed the importance of only utilizing CREDIBLE sources.  I don’t know that I appreciated it at the time, but I understand it now. 

Post # 188
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Blushing bee
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merighthere :  not sure that it’s a conspiracy theory from anywhere other than my own mind, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all to find out that the NC firebombing at the GOP office was an “inside job” i.e. Pro-Trump people did it to make it seem like anti-Trump people are awful and hateful.

Side note: in 40 minutes, a democrat lead Go Fund Me site beat their $10,000 goal to raise money to help restore/reopen the destroyed building. 

Post # 189
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Helper bee
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WestCoastV :  Flawed thought process? I didn’t know the universe collectively voted you to be the decision maker of what is credible or faulty logic. Not one person has the right to dictate this and would be delusional to think so.

Post # 190
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Sugar bee
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mm0601 :  you seriously think there isn’t money in curing diseases? I gave the example of Harvoni/Solvani and how Gilead had over 20 Billion $$$ in profit in 1 year!

There are some diseases that are not relatively profitable to devote resources to curing ie Ebola because it generally impacts a relatively small number of people and typically in poorer countries. That’s not a conspiracy though. I am sure if a researcher stumbled upon a cure for Ebola they would not suppress it, but the same amount of resources aren’t going to be devoted to finding that cure as are devoted to HIV research (for example.) 

Medical research is an extremely diverse field. It is not all controlled by “big pharma.” A significant portion of research is conducted or funded by governments, universities, hospitals, etc. 

Let’s say Gilead (since I used that example above) discovered a cure for HIV. Would they try to be the first to market and (conservatively) make hundreds of billions of dollars?

Or would they bury the cure so they could continue selling their current HIV portfolio drugs, until the patents run out or they are rendered obsolete when Amgen, the NIAID, DARE, AmFar or any of the other myriad of institutions around the world brings a cure to market? 

Which scenario makes sense to you?

Post # 191
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Sugar bee
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mm0601 :  some things are subjective others are objective. If you said “McDonald’s burgers are much better than In N Out” I would disagree with you, but you are entitled to your opinion. If you said “2+2=9” you would be wrong and I would say  there was a flaw in your thought process that caused you to reach the wrong result. 

I feel like a lot of people on this thread can’t differentiate between annecdotes/blog posts and data/fact. It’s a failure of critical thinking or total hubris. 

Post # 192
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Sugar Beekeeper
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sunshinenumber5 :  that was awesome that democrats did that for the GOP office. That’s the kind of leadership that we need more of. 

Post # 193
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Buzzing bee

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sunshinenumber5 :  Oh shit, glad I’m not alone in thinking that. Usually antifascists don’t reproduce unbroken swastikas…

And at the risk of sounding cold blooded I’m actually really repulsed by the amount of money that was raised for “recovery” as if that office wasn’t insured in any way, and as if ‘taking the high road’ or whatever mitigates the harm the GOP actively inflicts on people that democrats supposedly care about (HB2? hello?)

Post # 194
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Helper bee
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WestCoastV :  I never once said they wouldn’t make money. Read my post, I clearly said Of COURSE they would make millions and profit. 

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Sugar bee
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WestCoastV :  Marry me. 

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