(Closed) Is this offensive?

posted 9 years ago in Legal
  • poll: Is this offensive? Should they pay their bill?

    Yes it's offesnive

    No, it's just an accurate description like saying skinny girls

    Other (explained below)

    They have the right to refuse paying

    They DO NOT have the right to refuse paying

  • Post # 77
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    3015 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: December 2011

    Yes, it’s just plain being mean for no good reason. And stupid as well, since it was obvious those women would see that receipt.

    Post # 78
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2012

    @MrsWBS:  Okay I guess I should have said I don’t think I’d want someone describing me as ‘fat’ when I’m just trying to relax and have a nice dinner. 

    Post # 80
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2011

    @MrsWBS:  I appreciate the devil’s advocate question. “Fat”, “skinny”, “short” or “tall” may be descriptively accurate, but I agrue that any descriptive word used by a stranger to identify you when an alternative option was available, is an insult. It implies that you are so defined by that physical characteristic, a third party can walk into a crowded room and identify you by it. It means that others define you by that characteristic. As a health professional, I’m sure you are aware that overweight and obese people face discrimination daily. Acts such as this just emphasize it.

    A devil’s advocate question for you: would you be honestly flattered if random men whistled or cat called you? It happened to me last week, I was honestly creeped out by the boldness and didn’t appreciate a stranger passing judgement on my appearance. I seconded guessed the suggestiveness of my outfit and reassessed if I was walking in a safe place.

    Post # 81
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: December 2010

    That is sad. It would be smart for them to offer a free meal or gift card. I honestly would expect something  from them (plus an apology). 

    Post # 83
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    12340 posts
    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    @faye0314:  Is this really that different than some of the awful things you said you’ve called your customers on their checks?  The only difference is that you remembered to delete it. 

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    @HappilyEverAfter54:  People observe.  We’re not blind.  We see colors, we see heights, we see our preception of fat or skinny.  They probably dont want people to think of them as fat when they are walking down the street, but I’m sure there are people that do.  People are going to observe, and people are going to have a thought.. .just cause the thought if ‘fat’ doesnt mean its an insult rather than just a descriptor.

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    @sarahbabs:  Would “large girls” have been better?  Maybe you think I’m naive but I certainly do think fat or skinny can purely be a discriptor if there is no ill intent in using it.

    Post # 84
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    4053 posts
    Honey bee

    I would be very upset…. =( But I dunno, it is an identifier. On our receipt recently, we were “married couple.”

    Post # 85
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    3872 posts
    Honey bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

    @MrsWBS:  No, when a doctor writes obese in a medical record, it is not offensive.  That analogy is far from apt, however.  The obese note in a patient record is relevant and objective.  The doctor needs to note that to provide proper care.

    You know who does NOT need to note their customer’s weight?  A WAITER.  

    These situations are simply not analogous. 

    Post # 86
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    3974 posts
    Honey bee
    • Wedding: February 2012

    It’s definitely offensive, and if it happened to me I wouuld get the manager out, who I’m sure would offer a discount or something. Needless to say I would also leave a meager tip. 

    They definitely should expect that they’d still have to pay, but I’d hope the establishment would do something to apologize.

    Post # 87
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    878 posts
    Busy bee

    Yikes, reading over this discussion, you would all be livid at the types of labels I’ve seen people put tables under.

    And as an FYI, table numbers only work in certain restaurants with certain setups and certain computer systems. Ive had to start tabs under nicknames before because one table wants 6 different checks. :/

    I definitely think it was offensive, but I also think the computers sucked, and the kid was an idiot for not changing it. I’ve definitely labeled tables as rude things before so that the staff knows who’s in house (repeat offenders that we know are always a problem), but the system shouldn’t print it out!

    Post # 88
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

    @pinkshoes:  No, “large girls” wouldn’t have been better!  Seriously?  Why is anyone trying to justify this waiter’s failure to use basic common sense and courtesy?  If you are over the age of 3 you know that “fat” can be insulting.  So how about not describing customers with insulting words?  I’ve worked in food service, and it is really not that hard. 

    Post # 90
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: February 2012

    @MrsWBS:  Fair enough, but that is going off on a tangent. We’re not talking about medical records here.

    Post # 91
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    3872 posts
    Honey bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

    @MrsWBS:  Yes, people need to accept reality in the doctor’s office – but that does not translate to restaurants.  I don’t understand how this glaring difference isn’t obvious. 

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