Post # 1
So Simon and I were off in town snooping round jewelers looking at wedding rings and came across this really tiny old shop in one of the arcades it was literally the doorway plus a foot on either side, with black peeling paint and gold lettering and I just fell in love with it! Inside we met this really nice jeweler who talked for ages about the family business and how they get lots of business from aristocracy (I had no idea cardiff had any!) and stuff who need traditional rings for weddings and signet rings with the family crest on and stuff! But they also get lots of people who are immigrants from eastern europe , because they’ve been open since the 1850’s they have lots of traditional eastern european rings (late 1800’s Cardiff had lots of immigrants because of all the coal). Having heard all this I was expecting It all to be really pricey but having had a look around I was really pleased to see to se that it was not so!!!
I found a really nice celtic ring that I bought for my self anyway 🙂 and then we found this Russian wedding ring (my camera is still broken so I couldn’t take a picture but I found you a picture of one just like it online) it’s three bands inter linked – some say it represents the holy trinity and some say they represent you, your spouse and your first child, others say it is the different aspects of marriage – the good – the bad – and the hard and how they are all interlinked and we must weather them together. I really liked it and we asked the nice man to hide it away for us.
I then described it to my Maid/Matron of Honor (who is very opinionated) who said that if it was traditional then it probably had specific russian orthodox connotations and so for us to wear it is really disrespectful. I’m now a bit worried, Simon is about as Welsh as it’s possible to be, and I’m a mongrel but without any Russian.
Do you guys think this is disrespectful?
Post # 3
Not at all. I think it is lovely go for it. Just think how many people celebrate christmas and Easter who are not christian.
Post # 4
I don’t think you are being disrespectful, because you seem to enjoy the beauty of the ring and show interest in its meaning. However, I will say that I am ethnically Japanese and Chinese and do find it offensive when people take symbols that are sacred to my culture and use it any old way because use they think it’s “cute,” “exotic,” or “trendy.” Maybe you could ask the jeweler for some background information on the ring?
Post # 5
Um, that’s silly. That’s a very popular ring style and a lot of famous designers are making jewelry like that! Personally, I REALLY like the style; always have.
It’s a ring. Is it disrespectful to go out and eat russian food, too?
Post # 6
@ejs4y8 it’s not about the fact it’s Russian – it’s more about the fact that it may have specific russian orthodox meanings and for us to wear it without understanding and observing the meanings and rules , it’s like using catholic iconography on clothes ( like having mary on t-shirts)
Post # 7
I get what your Maid/Matron of Honor is saying, but still don’t think its disrespectful. I would do some research but, just out of curiousity. I’ve seen these rings on other people, none of whom are Russian.
Post # 8
I think that the ring can mean whatever you want it to mean. People are always borrowing things from different cultures, and as long as you aren’t being obnoxious about it then its fine. You can tell people the story of finding the ring, and how traditionally is is thought to symbolise so and so, and you love it because it makes you think of whatever it makes you think of. I say go for it. 🙂
Post # 9
I think that’s silly. It sounds like there isn’t any clear consensus as to the origins of the meaning anyway. Where it because you love it and give it whatever meaning you want.
Post # 10
Which jewellers was this out of interest?
My brother wore a russian wedding ring when he was engaged many years ago, I also chose a russian wedding ring for an engagement ring when i was in university, it was the yellow gold, rose gold, white gold one, very pretty.
I think these are pretty common in the UK now and they’re seen as more symbolic of the sentiment behind them, I guess I’m biased but I don’t think it’s disrespectful.
However, saying that, i’m not sure i’d want to wear a ring that my husband disagreed with the meaning or felt it disrespectful. If he has really strong thoughts on the subject, maybe you should keep looking for something you both love…
Post # 11
I’ve seen rings just like that in multiple different department stores and such (although obviously not as nice of a metal as in a jewelery store) and know numerous people who own similar rings. It may have originated as a Russian style but I’d say that it certainly is not anymore. I don’t see any problem with you getting it if that is the style of ring you like.
Post # 12
I still don’t see an issue with it if it has russian orthodox meanings. I’m pretty sure most nice sayings (and vows!) come from some sort of religious connotation somewhere. You aren’t wearing it for the orthodox-ness of it, you’re wearing it because it struck out to you for other reasons. Sentiment, looks, whatever. That particular group does not “own” it. I guess I don’t think it’s a big deal…i’m part korean and I don’t get offended when people have korean symbols in their house or anything. I hardly even notice or think twice. Or if someone has a Mary on their shirt, I don’t think twice. Shrug and move on. It’s not that big of a deal!
Post # 13
@CazS Anwell & Son in the arcade with the little bead shop in. (I can’t remember what the arcade was called.) And it’s my Sister and Maid/Matron of Honor who thinks its disrespectful not my Fiance 🙂
I think that given what you’ve all said we will go for it – but have a look at the meanings behind it.
Post # 14
I wouldn’t worry about it. I am Russian (don’t live there anymore), and most of my friends back in Russia use regular single band rings even if they do a traditional Orthodox ceremony.
So I doubt anyone will get offended as long as your response to people asking you about the ring is something along the lines of “I picked it because it was beautiful, technically it’s traditional Russian Orthodox and (optional) I’ve done some research and it supposedly means so-and-so” and not “it’s Russian Orthodox, it has these beautiful meanings, so I just had to pick it! I am sooooooo in tune with the culture now”.
Post # 15
I wear a ring like that on my right hand. I had no idea it meant anything. I love it!
Post # 16
- Wedding: March 2010 - Calamigos Ranch
Three is a common number in all kinds of mythologies, and I’m pretty sure that Russian Orthodoxy didn’t invent the interlocking ring. Don’t worry about it.