(Closed) Is your professor an enabler? Rant (LONG sorry!)

posted 8 years ago in College
Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: December 2009

it sounds like a problem with this particular professor – i’d give her a very honest and thorough review when that time of the semester rolls around.

Post # 4
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I have spent a lot of time doing group projects, particularly in my graduation program (doctor of pharmacy), including a project with 20 group members (crazy group size)!  Anyways, I understand it’s really frustrating to be in a situation like that, I at least in the schools that I have attended, they do not allow that type of behavior.  

 

If it’s any consolation, acceptable rates to medical school are rather low – just because you want to be a doctor doesn’t mean you’ll actually get to be one – especially if you have a history of this type of behavior.

Post # 5
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2009

Well, it isn’t fair but I find that the same situations happen in the real world. You could always complain to the department head. But these situations happen in every day life unfortunately.

I find this to be a problem at some, er, not so prestigious universities. I notice this a LOT at this school i’m taking classes at now–people get exceptions for a lot of stuff that makes me raise an eyebrow….this stuff did NOT fly at the last university I attended. They got weeded out fast.

And if they screw up now….they’ll screw up on the MCAT. It’ll bite them in the butt. Then they’ll have a biology degree and got rejected from med school. You can’t do a lot with that….so it’ll get them in the long run.

Post # 6
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

Yes, I had some professors like that in undergrad, but they were few and far between. Also, your professor wasn’t there personally to see what happened in the group and can’t make the decision if your group members were sick or not. Innocent until proven guilty is usually how it goes. Maybe she’s planning on talking to your group members to find out what happened, but can’t involve you in the process.

Just keep in mind that those students who blew off the project will likely be completely unprepared for med school. They’re not doing themselves any favor and grad school will bite them you-know-where. 

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

UUUUUGH so frustrating.  I know just how you feel and it’s horrid!!!  Unfortunately I dealt with them the same way you did.  The grad school issue was pretty much identical to your situation, except there were 3 of us and 2 did all the work.  The 2 of us got a lower grade than we deserved and the other member got a way higher grade than she merited (we all got the same grade). I am very impressed with your determination and motivation!

The one that REALLY hurt was in college.  My final semester, I was taking a beginning sign language elective.  The prof assigned a midterm paper on any aspect of Deaf culture, due the Tuesday after Spring Break.  We all complained and asked if it could be AT LEAST due that Thursday after, but he absolutely refused.  So what did I do?  I got my butt to Gallaudet U library (school for deaf in DC, I went to GW all the way across the city), decided to write my paper on how hearing parents should raise a deaf child so the child can grow up to be a member of the Deaf community.  I checked out some books and read them on the beach in the Bahamas.  I got back Sunday night and spent all day Monday writing the paper.  On Tuesday, I went to class and found out that only myself and maybe 2 other people had their papers finished – everyone else had decided to just take a penalty for being late.  Because so many people had shirked their assignment, he agreed to accept papers that Thursday as on time.  WHAT??????  Then, to add insult to injury, he gave my paper a C-, claiming that it wasn’t about Deaf culture.  GAH.  I wrote him a terrible course review at the end of the semester.  Small pleasure for huge anger.

Post # 8
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

I’m sorry you had such a bad experience – I’ve always hated group projects (in school and work) because there will always be at least one lazy person who make you shoulder the burden of the work.

It sucks now, but in the end they will suffer for their behavior (especially if its repeat behavior, which it usually is). My FH is a professor and hears the “deathly ill/dead Grandma” line all.the.time. For some reason, relatives are always apt to die on the date a major paper is due.
He always lets people who notify him in advance take the midterm/final late, because 99% of the time, they fail it. Not because he’s harder on retakers, but because they never study – they blow off the exam the first time, they blow the exam off the second time.

These people won’t study for the LSAT/GMAT/MCAT, and they don’t do well on it, so in the long term, you win.

I’ve gone to both private, supposedly prestigious schools and state universities and FH has taught at both State U and a *very* prestigious private New England college, and the most trouble he had (and I had) with behavior like this was at the prestigious private schools, so unfortunately, I don’t find that part surprising, at all. Depending on the politics and rules of the school, your professor may, or may not have any real leeway to do anything to discipline those students (esp. on you word alone).

All that said though, I feel your pain. It is SO infuriating when people do nothing and get rewarded for it.

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: December 2009

I had a lame group kind of like this in one of my marketing class.  It wasn’t as bad as yours though, out of 5 group members, only 2 of them were slackers leaving the rest of us to do all of the work.  My professor had us fill out peer evaluations after our big project and the other 3 of us ripped the other 2 people apart (We had also been in to talk to the professor numerous times and the other 2 were never around to work, so he knew).  The funniest part was when the other 2 members got a less than nice grade while the rest of us got A’s…uh duh…you gotta do the work to get the grade. lol

 

Post # 10
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

I went to college with several people like that and one particular professor that was such an enabler it wasn’t funny.  And two of the people that I knew personally?  One is living at home with her parents and no job.  And the other one is substitute teaching.  Neither one got into a graduate program for Biology.

I say good luck making it in the real world.

Post # 11
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

Wow what a lame group! But, I’ve never had that happen because our university has a policy that you need to hand in a doctors note to be excused from any class, especially an exam. I would go to the department chair (or if your school has another grievance procedure should the professor not work with you) or the college ombudsman.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

o but have been in sucky groups though…sorry

Post # 13
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: November 2010

Just wanted to throw in there, it’s very VERY hard to get into professional school. The admissions committee will see right through the slackers. Don’t worry!

Post # 15
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

I would go talk to the prof personally. Explain the situation. If prof is fair you’ll get a better grade and slackers will get hauled in to explain their behavior. Do focus on your own grade though, and don’t worry about others. As long as you get a fair grade accept it and move on.

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