Post # 1
Has anyone else seen these articles??
Apparently a group of scientists in Italy have been convicted of manslaughter and sentanced to jail time for failing to predict an earthquake.
This is simply shocking to me! Maybe it’s just me, but the last time I checked, there wasn’t a way to accurately predict when a large, devastating earthquake would strike.
Apparently the city where this quake occured (L’Aquila) sits on multiple faults and it is simply a matter of “when”, not “if” a big quake will strike. The city had been hit by many small tremors leading up to the large quake in April 2009 but the best estimate at the time was that the low-level seismicity was not likely to herald a bigger quake. Obviously that isn’t a guarentee and the estimates where wrong and a large quake came. And now the scientists are going to jail for manslaughter.
Does anyone else find this as crazy as I do??
Post # 4
@MissHobbit: I know! I have a hard time wrapping my head around it!
Post # 5
Unbelievable. There is no reliable way to predict earthquakes and yet the scientists are responsible for those deaths? That’s just nuts. Completely, totally nuts.
Post # 6
Good luck ever getting another scientist to work in that city! lol
Hopefully this will be overturned on appeal.
Post # 7
The Italian justice system seems jacked up to me. This is rediculous. So glad we decided not to go there for our honeymoon.
Post # 8
I heard about this. They had a commentator on the news who said the Italian system is unique and the scientists will probably be able to keep appealing the charges, never doing jail time but having to pay fees to continue the appeals.
They are holding people accountable for unpredictable acts of nature. That seems absurd to me.
Post # 9
Mmmmm I think instead of reading only 1 article you should get more informed on exactly how things went.. they were not charged for failing to predict an earthquake, they were charged for how they deliver the info they had to the population. Correct or not correct I am not in a position to say but only reading one article (foreign, btw) and judging is not fair either.
Post # 10
This is suuuuuuuuuuuch a backwards step for science. :-/
Post # 11
@julesjules83: I read 4 articles all from different sources (domestic and international). I didn’t feel the need to link to every article out there on the topic.
Basically, the scientists estimated that the low level tremors that the city was experiencing were not likely to lead up to a large quake. This info was disseminated but is obvioisly never a guarentee (and was never stated as a guarentee) when we’re dealing with natural disasters. They were wrong and a large quake happened and people died. And now they are convicted of manslaughter.
Post # 12
- Wedding: June 2012 - Franklin Plaza
@Asia: Nah I think it’s just a huge step backwards for Italians. 😉
My family is from Italy so I just had to send this around to all of my family members. I don’t even have any words for this; it’s absolutely absurd.
Post # 13
Completely ridiculous. Like PP said, they’re going to have a hard time finding more scientists to work there.
It really seems like they just wanted someone to blame. You can’t punish the earth, you can’t punish God- but you can punish some poor souls who happened to be wrong. There’s no justice in that.
Post # 14
That is redic! There are just no words for the rediculousness of that. Ugh
Post # 15
@Mrs.KMM: sorry I wasn’t clear: when I said “international press”I meant ‘not italian’. I understand you do not speak italian, so I am not expecting you to read the online newspaper there.. however, while a lot of italian scientists and people comdemn the sentence, it was not about the fact that the scientists didn’t predict the earthquake: it was about the fact that in the months and days before the main earthquake, they did not warn the population that there was a possibility of a bigger earthquake even though there were continous shakes of the ground, and therefore people were completely unprepared.Of course I am not an expert so I can’t judge.
What it really rubs me the wrong way is that people feel entitle to make comments without actually reading the real sentence but just gathering infos from foreign newspaper. I’ve read a few, and the translation of the part of the final sentence that is available was not reported/translated accurately, imo. Also, I believe the judge complete sentence is not out to the public yet.. so I’d rather wait to see exactly what they were convicted for before saying it’s ridicuolus.
Post # 16
@julesjules83: I also read articles from Italian newspapers (that had been translated to English). The articles I read were from Italy, the UK, and the US.
“in the months and days before the main earthquake, they did not warn the population that there was a possibility of a bigger earthquake even though there were continous shakes of the ground”
That’s the whole point though! The scientists can’t accurately predict if small tremors will lead to a big earthquake or not. And I can’t really blame scientists for people being unprepared for an earthquake when they live in an earthquake prone area.