Jewellers trying to change my mind!

posted 4 months ago in Rings
Post # 31
45 posts
  • Wedding: May 2014

If you’re in Europe, have you thought about going to Antwerp? 

Post # 32
4621 posts
Honey bee

You need to educate yourself before you spend this kind of money, so many people fail to do this. I would never buy a stone from a brick and mortar jeweler; 99% of the time they will overcharge you, particularly when they don’t have the stone in stock. There is a master list of all available diamonds, they’re called “virtual” diamonds online as they dont actually belong to the online store. More than one online retailer may be offering them for sale. It’s called drop-shipping. You order the diamond, which is priced relative to Rapaport. These days prices are down. Brick and mortar jewelers count on people being unaware of how the diamond industry operates. 

Post # 36
4621 posts
Honey bee

niki2015 :  That depends on what is important to you. Do you think you will ever upgrade your ring? Many people do, including those who’ve said they would never do it. Are you looking for a pear or other fancy shape? Or do you want a round diamond? Where I’d recommend you shop depends on the answers to these questions.

Post # 37
405 posts
Helper bee

niki2015 :  no problem. You are already doing so much more research than a lot of people that just walk into a jewelry store and buy the first ring they see. Good luck ! You will find the ONE soon. 

Post # 39
2135 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2018

“I would never buy a stone from a brick and mortar jeweler; 99% of the time they will overcharge you, particularly when they don’t have the stone in stock.”

This. My husband spend a lot of time designing a setting with a brick and mortar high-end shop. However, when it came to the diamond (princess cut), they kept offering him these low quality stones (essentially lying that they were excellent cut when they were good cut at best) at a ridiculous mark-up and getting angry when he wanted them to look for something better. We ended up going to Brilliant Earth (they even have a physical location in our city) and getting a diamond (and setting) that we atually loved without being ripped off (as much). It was offensive what that dealer was trying to sell.

Post # 40
703 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

So I am from Europe too. And I got engaged while I lived in Germany. That’s like the second to last place I’d buy a diamond. They role still with that old scale of Jaeger, River, Wesselton and often don’t distinguish between 1 and 2 in clarity. Horrible to talk to these people. The biggest diamond I could ever find was about 2ct for well over 50k€. I’ve never seen anything in a display that is something other than a round solitaire. Munich will have more to offer than the rest of Germany (try Rénesim) but still… also they also try to sell you more than you need (eg color and clarity) and won’t ever notice.
The only place I’d go to buy something so specific would be Antwerpen. 
Germany is so overpriced (even if you take the VAT off) that it makes sense to fly to the US for 500€ (Just yesterday I booked a round trip US-GER for 460€) and get NY style pizza with a side of diamond. 

That said I have to mention that my husband bought my ring at James Allen and flew to the states to pick it up (disguised as a business trip) because usps wouldn’t insure that amount and Fed Ex would go through customs. 

I’d listen to the bees and their recommendations on where to buy what you want. Especially pricescope is a good recommendation and then find a way to get the Ring/Diamond to Europe. The suggestions made are great. Just look at what you can get in Dollars compared to Euros… set 600€ aside for a trip and a Pizza and you will get a better, cheaper, specific stone. 

Post # 41
4621 posts
Honey bee

I’m not being facetious here when I say schedule a vacation in the states and buy a ring. There are online realtors who also maintain stores. If you’re in NYC you have a few to choose from. Good Old Gold, Brilliantly Engaged and Diamonds by Lauren are some that come to mind. You could contact them prior to your trip so they have things ready to show you.

And go to a Broadway show and the Met while you’re at it. The St Regis is a great hotel if you have the $$, and Marriott has a few hotels in NYC that are always clean and well run but less $. 

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