(Closed) Just a little rant about modesty…

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Post # 34
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172 posts
Blushing bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

I refuse to grant any merit to a website created by people who don’t know how to spell the word “physical.” Just sayin.

Post # 35
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2015

@joya_aspera:  if you have a problem with the hypersexualization and objectification of women’s bodies (I do!), by all means, talk about it as much as you can. But I don’t see how it helps to vilify a woman who is dressing in the manner in which she is told is desirable. hold the patriarchy accountable, not individual women. 

Post # 38
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6354 posts
Bee Keeper

@BridieBea:  feeling restricted in how you choose to dress because you fear rape IS very disempowering, I agree. Is feeling obligated to wear a burka by societal threat of violence more disempowering than feeling that you’re not cool and popular if you’re not wearing a string bikini (next to nothing) in public at the beach? Yes, but both are terrible ways to treat women.

A large proportion of women “wanting” to dress in a way that diminishes the human self into a sexual object to view to an awards show or other public event? That mass “wanting” comes from a place of disempowerment… a place which women have heard and heeded the message that “your body’s sexual attractivenss is the most valuable thing about you.”

Sure, a minority of women might do it for other reasons… just as you will find the occasional man in a thong swimsuit on a US beach. I am speaking on a societal level. And societally, this is not the ideal.

Post # 40
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2013

To be perfectly honest, I don’t think this kind of misogynistic attitude has anything to do with religion. I think people often take their misogyny and baptize it in the name of their religion. And I say this as a deeply religious person. If someone has the responsibility for their own moral action, they have the responsibility to not perceive women(or anyone, for that matter) as sexual objects. The onus there is not on anyone but that moral agent. We each have to be responsible for our individual moral agency, and the minute we start pointing the finger at others, that is the moment we lose all the meaning entailed in moral agency.

This shit be cray.

Post # 41
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

I dont really see a problem with this. Its a religious site telling women you can be beautiful without showing all your kibbles and bits! lol Its also all relative, as religious jews and host of other religions would think most of the attire posted is immodest. 

Post # 42
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Buzzing Beekeeper

@Miss Country Chick:  I don’t want to defend these douches in any way but psychical is actually a word.

adj. also psy·chi·cal (-k -k l). 1. Of, relating to, affecting, or influenced by the human mind or psyche

I do think they have misused it however. It is usually associated with the paranormal rather than the literal meaning of affecting the human mind.

Post # 43
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

@joya_aspera:  it’s not about power or needing it. it’s about wearing whatever the hell you want. and if you feel like showing your leg, your entitled to it, it doesn’t mean there’s anything going on. maybe you just FEEL LIKE IT.

Post # 44
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Bee Keeper

@BridieBea:  I don’t see it as a slippery slope. There is no chance that my viewpoint will ever mutate into “she deserved to be raped because of how she was dressed.” My viewpoint is in the opposite direction from that.

There is more than one place where a pro-modesty viewpoint can come from. Mine comes exclusively from a place of wanting all women to feel just as empowered as men, and both genders feeling freer and less tied to obligatory sex roles than they do today.

Post # 45
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Buzzing Beekeeper

@joya_aspera:  Are you saying that the indigenous populations of many countries of this world are dressing in a way that diminishes the human self into a sex object?

I am quite offended by your thinking. My great  great grandmother and great grandmother ran around topless in a grass skirt sans underwear until the missionaries told her how immoral she was being and forced her to abandon her culture and dress “appropriately”.

And I wont even touch how insulting your comments would be to nudists.

I wish people would stop trying to enforce their views on “appropriate” dress on other people. If you don’t like it don’t wear it, don’t buy the magazines that have pictures of it, watch TV/movies that display it.

Do some people dress more seductively due to self esteem issues- sure do but an equal number of men and women abuse alcohol, food, drugs, and self harm due to self esteem issues. A high number of people commit suicide due to being shamed about their appearance.

But at the same time some people feel beautiful and confident when they reveal a bit or a lot of skin. And their self esteem is high and they are happy.

At the end of the day the individual should choose what they are comfortable wearing.

Post # 46
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Bee Keeper

@j_jaye:  Nope, I am speaking of our culture.

Even in our own culture, our babies often run around stark nekkid. They do this out of the joy of being stark nekkid, nothing else. This is just joyful.

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