(Closed) Just a little rant about modesty…

posted 7 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 47
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Buzzing Beekeeper

@joya_aspera:  But you were the one that brought Islamic culture into this so you are not just talking about your culture.

Post # 48
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Bee Keeper

I was just saying that while our culture is not the most disempowering to women, we still have further to go… and why “further to go” will actually involve women overall putting some clothing back on, not getting even more nude.

Post # 49
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: December 2014

@StephieBee:  I wish we could “like” comments on here. I saw that too. I died.

Post # 51
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Bee Keeper

@BridieBea:  That wouldn’t be the way to go about it. That wasn’t what motivated me to dress the way I do.

Post # 53
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

I think this whole thing is too complicated to either say it is bad,  or it is not bad,  at least in our current culture. We live in a society (and I’m speaking about the US here) that often views women’s bodies primarily as sexual/pleasurable objects. That is why people are so disgusted by breastfeeding, or by women giving birth. Yet, we also live in a culture that defines the morality of a women by how she dresses ie if you show too much boob you must be a “slut.”

I think the first thing to sort out is that our bodies have multiple purposes, breasts are not just to look at, vaginas are not just to penetrate, a penis does more than stimulate.  Then the whole issue of modest or immodest and its relation to clothing will be null. Currently, if a woman wants others to value her for more than her physical self, she has to cover her physical self. If we could learn to respect the body for more, than the whole issue would dissolve.

Post # 54
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2016

Well excuse me while I go out this weekend wearing a mini dress, heels and some cleavage Yell lol 

 

Good grief charlie brown.

Post # 55
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2013

C.S. Lewis (a very Christian individual) said, wisely, something to the extent of that modesty is a characteristic of virtue, not a characteristic of dress. It can be perfectly modest for a woman to be bear-breasted in one culture, but a perfectly covered up woman in another culture can behave immodestly. Modesty, as a virtue, is about not objectifying yourself sexually, and what that looks like for different cultures looks different. It’s about the attitude behind your clothes, not the clothes themselves.

Post # 56
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Busy bee

I’m torn.  There is a girl at my school who shows up to her job at the district attorney’s office in outfits I’d be embarassed to wear at the club.  Skirts so short you can see her underwear, low cut tops with boobs hanging out etc.  I consider it on par with men who wear sagging jeans with their underwear poking out and dirty wife beaters.  No, you are not entitled to wear whatever you want whenever you want.  If you’re at the club, have a party, but if you have a job with a dress code or attend professional school or something like that, youre being disrespectful dressing like that.  

Post # 57
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Busy bee

ENTER DOUBLE STANDARDS 


It’s not just guys, some girls make the same comments behind other girls’ back saying they look “slutty” because the way they dress. I bet you know girls who say things like that too. 

Most people who dress revealing tend to have high self esteem, because they feel confident enough to dress however they want. 

At the end, both men and women do judge. Men are judging from a mating stand point of finding a good wife, and women are judging from the stand point of feeling the threat or jealously of how confident some women are, and taking away potential mates. 

 

 

Post # 59
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

@AdriannaJean:  +1 I completely agree

I think some people are overreacting to this pinterest board just because it reflects ideas that are not part of their culture. It may seem extreme to you, but maybe it’s completely normal to someone who was brought up with these same ideas of “modesty.”

For me, as someone who covers (I’m a Muslim), modesty isn’t just about the clothes. It’s more about your speech and conduct..and this applies to both men and women.

Post # 60
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Helper bee

@BridieBea:  

Great post!  I agree with everything you said.  I personally like a lot of modest clothes (I only wear one piece swimsuits, I really want a long sleeve wedding dress, etc.) but that’s because I like the style.  I sure as fuck do not need some man (or woman!) telling me what I should or shouldn’t be wearing!  I agree this kind of thinking totally adds to the rape culture in our society and it sickens me.  Women should be free to wear whatever they want free of judgement.

Post # 61
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

haha, I checked out the pinterest link and it seems that you ladies are blowing up their posts. Love it!!!

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