Post # 16
Feminism isn’t just a label. It’s a quality of living. Women all over the world face death for demading autonomy and agency. It’s a very serious issue and to glibly say that it isn’t important in your life is by default undermining the struggles of others. Let’s replace feminism with anything else. I’m not a believer in civil rights because no one has ever taken mine; I’m not a believer in freedom of speech because no one has ever told me to be quiet; I’m not a believer in access to clean water because no one has ever dirtied mine. Do you understand the parellels?
Feminism is fluid, but there are universals. And when you dismiss a term that has empowered BILLIONS of women so casually because in the immediate here and now you can’t relate, is just plain ignorant. And just because you can’t immediately feel the sting of inequality in your life doesn’t mean you haven’t encountered it at some point. The biggest challenge in overcoming inequality is being able to identify it when it happens. I don’t believe any woman who says she hasn’t face it at some point because out society is based on it. Whether it’s a little girl being told she can’t play “boy games” and being guided away from math and science, to a woman making less money than her peers or being given grief for maternity or family leave, to a government creating laws preventing women from making choices for their bodies. All those insidious elements of inequality effect EVERYONE.
Then my Fiance must be self-loathing because he’s a feminist and is proud to say so.
Post # 17
1) So she is stupid because she doesnt identify with a certain stance? Good to know we all have to think the same!
2) Is anyone really looking to her for inspiration/guidance/moral compass? She is a sitcom actress, not the Nobel Peace Prize winner.
Post # 18
That’s a cop-out. I’m a kindergarten teacher. My mother was a nurse. Future Mother-In-Law is an admin assistance. Does that mean it’s OK for us to not advocate for women, just because we aren’t “important”?
Post # 19
Saying she is not a feminist because SHE hasn’t experienced inequality is so incredibly self-absored and ignorant. Almost like saying, I don’t advocate for children to have access to meal and water because I never went hungry as a child.
Post # 20
eeniebeans: “So she is stupid because she doesnt identify with a certain stance? Good to know we all have to think the same!”
Right, because that is exactly what people are saying
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Post # 21
You have to be aware that not everyone equates the term with what you stated. Is it a sign of ignorance? Maybe, but it doesn’t mean these things aren’t important to those that just don’t use the word. Let’s face it – A LOT of people still think “feminist” means man-hating bitch. They don’t think it means ‘equal rights advocate’. It’s not fair to jump on others who can only associate with what they’ve been taught. Personally I’ve never once met anyone who made a point of saying “My name is <> and I’m a feminist”. I associate with people of all genders, races, religions, sexual orientations, etc… It’s for damn sure that equality is relevant and important to all of these people.
Post # 22
fem·i·nism ˈfeməˌnizəm/noun the advocacy of women’s rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.
Apparently, Ms. Cuoco is not the only one who doesn’t actually know what feminism is. And fancy that, not a single word about hating or bashing men. Hm.
Post # 23
I never suggested the women of your family aren’t important- I’m not even sure where that came from. I was just saying that that dim-bulb actress is under no obligation to support or advocate for anything.
Post # 24
- Wedding: A very pretty church.
Gut reaction = “OFFS”
but of course it’s complicated. She can choose to actively reject it if she wants to (though I do find these articles weird, “Jane Doe not an environmentalist” doesn’t make headlines…just the media stirring controversy where there isn’t any), then I can read her justifications for that and think “well…that’s just silly”. You don’t need to be a feminist activist to be a feminist, I think this is where people slip up and it’s a f-ing broad church and you don’t have to (and indeed can’t) agree with all things all other feminists are saying/have said to be one. Self identify and you get accusations of man hating and bra burning and you’re then held responsible for whatever crap some TERf has said on twitter…>.>
Post # 25
If maybe more people- not women- identify as feminist, in that they want a more equitable term, perhaps these stereotypes of angry women might fade. You don’t have to be a woman to want a more society with more equity. Men can be feminists, too.
Post # 26
- Wedding: May 2016 - Winery
It’s sad that Kaley Cuoco (and some people on here, apparently) still subscribe to that antiquated notion that feminism = man-hating b*tch. I’d be willing to pay $$$ to a woman who has never faced inequality once in her life.
Post # 27
wow thats pretty stupid. i hate it when anyone says they arent a feminist because all it is, is that you believe men and women are equal. everyone should be one!! but some people think it means women are better than men and so they become afraid of the term. and like OP said associated with male bashing. i think there should be another term for that kind of feminism.
Thats exactly what it means hense the face palm. i just dont think people realize that all feminism is, is the advocate for equality. its simple as that. so by saying you are not a feminist is stating you dont believe in equality…
when feminism first took place women wornt equal and were labeled as angry women because they were. i would have been too. now, and because of those women, we dont understand the need for the feminist label. equality is a household thing.
it seems so many women these days dont really understand feminism, and shy away from it because of the old sterotype. i would have been just as man bashing and bra burning back in the day if someone told me i didnt matter as much as a man. that i was here to serve a man, that i cant even vote, and my only place is in the kitchen and making babies. and that if i were assulted it must have ment i deserved it. most woman forget that the majority of countries still feel this way about woman. that there are still women out there fighting for equality. they also forget that it was just in our parents generation that women were assulted in the work place all the time-and no one gave a shit!! sorry for the vent but man it grinds my gears. Ive been in a lot of different countries where women dont have rights like americans. for a small example just down south in mexico, women are not allowed in the military, arent even offered sports in high school. Plus they have to live with their parents untill they are married, and its acceptable for their husbands to have some girl on the side. … i guess i already sound like an angry feminist 😉 but when you see discriminiation first hand, the problems are hard to ignore.
My husband and I are proud to say we are feminists. (and yes ive heard those words come out of my husbands mouth) A feminist is a person who advocates or supports the rights and equality of women. bottom line
Post # 28
I think most people that say they arent a feminist, dont actually know what feminism is.
Post # 29
Ding, ding, ding, ding!!!!!
This is what it boils down to!