Post # 31
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Newbee
I won’t label myself as a feminist, only because of the connotation it has and how misunderstood the label is. But I do believe in equal rights. I think she just doesn’t want to be named a ‘bra-burning crazy woman’, so she is staying away from the whole feminism term in general.
Post # 32
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Helper bee
Kassy: I’m with you.
I believe in equality for all people, but I don’t call myself a feminist. Mostly because the only “acts” of feminism I see are online and that’s where it gets very agressive and crazy. People act much differently behind the safety of a computer screen than they do in person. I don’t think Kaley Cuoco is ignorant or doesn’t care, but not everyone has an activist heart, and that’s ok.
Post # 33
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Buzzing bee
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Kassy: ilikeballet: But it’s that attitude that perpetuates the stereotype. This is the Webster dictionary definition of feminism:
the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities. Any one who says they aren’t a feminist, but believes in equal rights is a hypocrite. The only way to change the perception is through education, and if smart women who believe in equal gender rights are ashamed to use the word feminist to describe themselves, there will never be progress.
Post # 34
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Buzzing bee
coffeedrinker:
Here is a really nice speech emma watson gave at a campaign on feminism.
Emma Watson Gender equality is your issue too | UN Women – Headquarters
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Post # 35
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Bumble bee
- Wedding: A very pretty church.
coffeedrinker: Doubtless, though I doubt many celebrity men have to worry about this question and how it will play publicly. Personally I think we need more women (ordinary and extraordinary) unrepentantly self identifing, but I don’t think it is something that people (women) in the public spotlight have to do, she’s a sitcom actor, this is not her job unless she wants it to be…and clearly she doesn’t want it. She may also fear backlash due to the er, misconceptions many people have re feminism and feminists. You don’t have to look far through this thread to see a few of the more common and entrenched (and yes, ignorant, in the true meaning of that word) ones. So, yeah….it would be great if many famous and popular women said “well, yeah, of course I am a feminist, I like equal rights and I hope someday the gender pay gap will not be a thing anymore” without that being controversial, but I don’t think getting hypercritical of sitcom actors helps any. Hence “OFFS”
but it’s complicated.
Post # 37
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Buzzing bee
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souza_2005: Loved her speech! She is role model to all women.
Post # 38
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Sugar bee
MeandMyLouboutins:
8 simple ruuuuuules!!! As in my childhood sitcom fantasy land show
Post # 39
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Bumble bee
Aquaria: And whose fault is it if people are misinterpreting the term feminism and wrongly applying it? The feminists who advocate for equality or the misinformed? Shall I remain silent or not criticize the people out there who are misappropriating a valuable “label” because it’s not “fair”? And just to be clear, in the interview Ms. Cuoco volunteered that gem of self-identity. It wasn’t forced out of her or applied to her.
eeniebeans: Neither is a kindergarten teacher, a nurse, or an adminstrator. But we do, even in our small ways, in our small little worlds. I will never win a nobel prize, either. But I understand my words have power, even in my small world. People hear them and are influenced by them. That’s the consequence of sharing my opinion. Words have weight.
souza_2005: Isn’t it sexy when your man is PROUD to be a feminist! How much more protective of your woman can you get when you make it known loud and clear that you will always be on her side when equality is at stake??
Post # 40
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Helper bee
kimmo416: I respectfully disagree that just because I don’t identify myself as a feminist but believe in equal rights makes me a hypocrit. I would be a hypocrit if I claimed I believed in equal rights and didn’t treat people equally. Hypocrisy, in my mind, is claiming to be a feminist while shaming other women and pointing the finger at them as the problem because they don’t want to idenitfy themselves as feminists because all they see is negativity in the movement. I believe in the dictionary definition, but the issue is many women in the movement don’t comport themselves per that definition.
Post # 41
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Newbee
kimmo416: I don’t usually have people ask me straight out if I’m a feminist, so I’m not sure why my disagreeing with the label matters. I will proudly say I’m an equal rights advocate though. I feel that term is a much better description of what I believe in and doesn’t have any negative connotations with it. Maybe if I did call myself a feminist that would have a tiny microscopic effect on the perception, but I’d rather use a clearer term.
Post # 42
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Buzzing bee
coffeedrinker: Thank you!!
i have two cents to add about the nobel prize winner. More people in this country know who and listen to kelly cuoco more than the last and even the first nobel prize winner. thats sad but its true. esp young women and men.
Post # 43
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Bumble bee
ilikeballet: Kassy: Oh dear…… Do you want to make your own choices in your life, not dictated by men or governments or “family values” or societal norms? Do you want to make the same amount of money for an identical job a man does? Do you want the freedom to study what you want to study? Do you want to get a job through your own abilities and not through the interpretations of another on what your name, skin color, physical appearances, or sexual orientation “mean”? Do you want your daughters to be given equal access and encouragement through all content areas in education? Do you want your child to be included in all types of play? Do you want to feel like your government represents your best interests, financially and socially? Do you want to feel safe at a bar, walking down the street, and in your own home without a man? Do you want, on your wedding day, that moment when your father “gives you away” to be more of a symbol than an actual task in which he physically hands you over to your husband as a piece of property? Do you want an education, the right to work, and raise the family of your choosing?Do you like to vote, own property, and otherwise possess agency in every aspect of your life?
Feminism isn’t just about fighting for things you don’t have. It’s also about using the opportunities gained through past struggles, like voting, working, and gaining an education.
All of those are possible because of feminism. If you say yes to any of those, guess what? You’re a feminist. 🙂
kimmo416: +1000000000
Post # 44
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Helper bee
coffeedrinker: I don’t want other women judging me for the way I choose to describe myself.
Post # 45
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Bumble bee
ilikeballet: People judge racists. People judge bigots. People judge the misinformed. People judge the gender-biased. I don’t want people judging me for being a feminist. I don’t want people judging me for being a blonde. I don’t want people judging me for making 40K a year as a kindergarten teacher. But guess what? That’s life. People judge, good or bad, on what you label or not label yourself, on what you do or don’t do.
That’s not a valid argument. Life is all about judgements. I suppose I would err on the side of being judged for being on the right side of history (and vocabulary).
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