Kleinfeld's and their pricing…?

posted 5 years ago in Dress
Post # 17
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: March 2016 - Modern, Classic, Fun

SweetSweetB:  I also hate pnina dresses!! I thought I was the only one. Not only are they gaudy but they always look poorly constructed IMO lol. 

Post # 18
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2015 - Drury Lane Oakbrook

I agree that it’s the markup.  You are paying for going to Kleinfeld’s,  not necessarily for the designer. 

I went to one bridal shop (not Kleinfeld’s) to try on Maggie Sottero Lorie.  I had seen it on weddingshoppeinc.com and knew the dress cost was  about $1150-$1200.  When they brought out the sample the tag said it was $1699.  Guess where I bought the dress?

Post # 20
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: October 2015 - Coastal Maine inn

SkinnyLatte17:  I bought my dress at Kleinfeld’s, and I found them to be VERY respectful of the budget. I wound up buying a dress for about $3,500 (the top of my budget), but I tried on many options in the $1k-$2k range that looked beautiful, including a lot of Maggie Sottero. My runner up dress was actually a Maggie, for $1,100. Their accessories are definitely priced higher than market value, but if you buy them at the time you buy your dress, they give you a 15% discount. 

Post # 21
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Helper bee

SkinnyLatte17: I’m not sure how true this is, but I was told that most of the salons in NYC mark up their prices due to cost-of-living expenses, etc., there.  Kleinfeld’s I’m sure is more guilty of this than others, because they are charging you for the “experience” and the convenience of their large stock all under one roof.  I am always suspicious of the way they discuss budgets on the show, however.  While part of the issue is their upcharging on the MSRP, I think they just also have a policy for when they are filming and editing the show to emphasize the higher budgets and not to showcase the more affordable designers.  It’s part of their brand, and if a bride watches SYTTD every week and gets inundated with the message that she can’t spend less than $5k, $7k, $10k to get her dream gown, then hopefully she won’t balk at their mark-ups if she decides to shop at Kleinfeld’s herself.  That might seem a bit cynical, and I’m sure most of the brides who shop their leave pleased with their experience and the customer service, but it’s all capitalism.  The salon I purchased my gown from was a lot less fancy than the first place I shopped, which had better natural lighting, a cute seating area, and plates of cookies, but I cared more about getting to try on the designers I was interested in and not paying for those amenities in the final price of my dress. 

When I was watching the most recent season, I started noticing how constant it seemed that all the brides wanted a Pnina or Mark Zunino…like they were purposefully using the show to push their in-house designers.  Which they are free to do and makes sense for their business, but it got a little old, especially as my purpose since buying my own dress for watching SYTTD has switched to looking for anyone who tried on the same dresses I did or the same designers.  I practically cheered when they featured the brides who purchased Hayley Paige gowns!

Post # 22
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: January 2016

I bought my dress from Kleinfelds in Toronto and had a great experience. The dresses were priced the same as anywhere else. I purchased Star by Hayley Paige and am so in love with it. hahahha I could not agree more. Pnina gowns are hideous I tried one on just for a joke it was 15 grand , hideous and probably weighed fifty pounds lol no thanks!

Post # 23
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

I think part of it is paying more for the “experience”. 

Post # 24
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Sugar bee

SkinnyLatte17:  Their markup is pretty high, and as you can see on the show, they will actually negotiate. I went there with a $7000 budget and my consultant basically told me I was poor. I’m not a fan…

Post # 26
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2016

I have a Pnina from Kleinfeld’s and I had a great experience. My Pnina is completely different than most, and the bees love it a lot more than my Lazaro. I also found they were respectful of budget and do have cheaper gowns, they just don’t show it on the show. I don’t like how they act like 3k is cheap on the show and don’t understand why those people don’t go else where. I’ve also bought a Lazaro from Bridal’s by Lori. I’ve been in there multiple times, and until recently, always had a negative experience. Until the time I bought my dress, I would have rather flown to NYC to go to Kleinfeld’s than to drive to Bridal’s by Lori. 

Post # 27
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Buzzing bee

vanessa1359:  

You are correct designers give us a recommended retail price when a store purchases a gown. A good shop will stay at the lower end of the recommendation. Obviously the designer and some shops will not argue if they can triple or more the price and know people will stay pay for it. Some higher-end couture shops do this claiming half of what you pay for is the experience. Kelinfeld’s is most likely an example of this and is why many brides have tried on dresses they have elsewhere for less. 

However shops cannot sell below the recommended price or they can get reported. Designers actually have secret reps that will go into stores to make sure they are selling it for at least the minimum recommended price. If not the designer can revoke the store’s account and pull the dresses from the store. That’s why if it is a new running style stores just can’t hand out crazy discounts or they can get in trouble. 

That’s why I like the shop I work at though we don’t up-price our dresses like crazy. 

Post # 28
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2013

beerandcupcakes:  not 100% true. Yes, rent in NYC is INSANE. However, they have so much more business vs other places that some salons do have very competitive pricing. Many times I find things in NYC to be cheaper vs anywhere else. This included some dresses. 

Post # 29
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Bumble bee

It just angers me that they boast “We have over 10,000 dresses” and yet why am I seeing the same ugly blush ballgown 7 times with the huge flowered belt!?  Or the same ugly big dress with napkin layers?  

It started out as such a cool idea for a show.. 🙁

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