Post # 1
I decided on a lab created diamond since you do get more bang for our buck then a natural diamond from the earth. What is your opinon on lab created? Also has anyone used James Allen? Good or bad reviews?? I’ve done a ton of research and seems like they are a good company. If you have a ring from there can you please post the pic? Im leaning towards emerald cut!
Post # 2
I have a mined diamond from James Allen and am very pleased with my ring.
Lab diamonds are gorgeous, cause duh, they’re diamonds. The only negative I know about them is the mark-up is absurd (cost to make vs. what they’re sold for), so they may go down in price in the future.
Post # 3
Though I have seen a recent uptick in quality control and customer service issues with James Allen, to my knowledge they are still fairly reputable despite having recently been acquired by Signet, the parent company of Kay, Zales and Jared (who are less than reputable and considered downright shady by many), so take that for what it’s worth. My understanding is that GCAL is better than IGI when it comes to grading lab diamonds (GIA does grade lab diamonds, but on a much more limited basis). Also, you may want to do some research on the types of lab diamonds (CVDs vs HPHTs). CVDs are prone to stria marks and can have a brownish/blackish tint and HPHTs can have a blue tint. Those marks and tints are usually not noted on the lab reports. Just some things to consider. GL
Post # 4
If OP is patient in her search she can get a lab diamond for 25%-35% of the cost of an equivalent mined diamond. While labs are not as cheap as moissanite, apparently the cutting process costs the same as a mined diamond, hence the price difference.
I don’t like James Allen at all, and many bees will agree with me, because they removed the buyer’s ability to look at the certificates on their own. Transparency is much worse after the sale to Signet, meaning it’s much more difficult to find the perfect diamond for you and your budget without the input of salespeople who profit from your choice.
I would instead suggest starting your search on Rare Carat (they have a lab diamond filter) because they are a great resource for finding reputable retailers and you can get an idea of what you should spend for the diamond you want. Most retailers price match so be sure to do your homework!
Post # 5
I have a lab diamond and love it! Didn’t go through JA though…from my research their lab diamonds are overpriced compared to other vendors.
If you go to Rare Carat you can search for the best deals on lab diamonds and they have good reputable vendors on there! Or your local jeweler could source some lab diamonds for you to look at in person if you prefer that over photos and videos online
Post # 7
love when that happens! 😁 OP is in good hands!
Post # 8
I honestly don’t know the difference in cutting various stones, maybe cutting a diamond to ideal standards is more difficult than cutting a moissanite, thus a price increase? I haven’t researched it. I know ideal cuts, like the AGS 000, always get marked up, no matter the stone type.
OP asked for our opinion on lab diamonds. My opinion is the mark up is large currently. Does that matter to everyone? Absolutely not. I’m excited if/when the price decreases as more companies produce, forcing everyone to be more competitive. I really want a heart diamond one day and will absolutely go the lab route.
Post # 9
yes that’s exactly it. According to older bees, lab diamonds have already seen quite the decline in prices, though I agree, it would be nice to see them dip lower!
Post # 10
I have a lab diamond I got from BE and I love it. I searched every single co that sells lab diamonds and went with the one I felt had the best and largest diamond in my price range. You just have to look at all companies and really do research
Post # 11
I’ve seen this comment floating around often (may have been you before?) on this board and wanted to add my 2 cents.
This is really only true for diamonds grown outside of the US and Canada.
If they’re grown and cut and marketed and sold in the USA, by people being paid a fair living (not minimum) wage with benefits, in facilities run by folks with similar benefits, then the cost isn’t horribly overpriced.
Raw materials aren’t the only cost that should be considered.
That being said, gems are all just massively overpriced pebbles anyways 😛 It’s kind of odd we’re so attracted to them, isn’t it?
Post # 12
OP I have a lab emerald diamond from Diamond Foundary. I love it. I’ve owned mined diamonds in the past in other shapes, and don’t think I’d go back.
Watch clarity and cut with this shape, they really are halls of mirrors that amplify everything they see, good or bad.
Check for windowing and extinction!
Mirroring effect with color:
And picking up specks of dirt to reflect from the area around it (these aren’t inclusions!):
Post # 13
mine is a lab, and I was a but nervous ordering it instead of a mined diamond. It’s definitely more cost effective, however, and I didn’t want to have to worry about the ethical reprecussions of a mined diamond. we were originally going to go through James Allen, but I much preferred another design I later found. Other than hearing of an occasional delay, I heard mostly good things about James Allen.
Post # 14
- Wedding: June 2019 - City, State
Sounds like a smart decision! I’m Moissanite all the way, but if I did get a diamond ever, it would definitely be a lab diamond.
Post # 15
If we hadn’t found our jeweler, a local jeweler who was recommended to us by 5 family friends, we were planning to go lab diamond. But by going whole sale, we got a mined diamond that’s just stunning for the same price and it’s valuation is absolutely insane. Like I refused to leave the house until the insurance came through.
Personally, I think lab diamonds are a bit of a gray area because it’s hard to get a reliable grading. A lot of lab diamonds have been coming out with brown hues lately. BUT if you can find a good one, you are technically still getting a ring made of truly durable material so that’s nice.