Post # 1
I changed career paths about a year ago from a position with a major television news network here in DC to a step above entry level marketing position at a nonprofit (major pay cut). I’d consider myself a fashionable person, nothing too trendy but I do appreciate quality designer brands that I can mix in with my less expensive finds. That said, at the station, it’s almost expected but here my colleagues probably wonder but the other day my office mate even went so far as to joke about my bf (who does really well) which is ridiculous because I didn’t even know him when I started here and he’s never bought me anything. The teasing is usually in good fun, but coming from a corporate environment I know the smallest things can “hold you back.” I’m getting engaged in the next few months and my ring will be pretty sizeable (relatively speaking) 2.27 GIA XXX solitaire on a .36 shank which isn’t so big for this area but at my work it will stand out. It’s my dream ring and I’m super excited about it, but I always wonder if large rings make certain sectors think I don’t need or want raises/promotions etc. Is that an old fashioned or crazy thought?
I know it’s a much talked about discussion as far as interviews and I probably wouldn’t wear it for an interview but what if you already have the job and want to advance with no shallow obstructions?
I’ve got a pretty big hand too, so 2+ carats might not seem as big. That’s not particularly what I want, but it could help with this thought process lol
Post # 3
I don’t think people associate your PERSONAL wealth with your fundraising needs
Post # 4
I really can’t comment to much as I’ve never worked in a non-profit organization but my impression is (and probably wrongly so I apologize in advance) thatwith so much stuff that needs to be done in the world they’d try to do their best to do whatever they can within their society/cause they are attached too. Keep in mind that this is a ring your fiance gives you, so even if you would never spend that on yourself, unless you flat out told him no it is ultimately a gift. I personally don’t think that your ring should be indicative of your need for raises/promotions but as you say, impressions are everything and it MAY (although not rightfully) get others to think that way.
You do say that your hands are pretty big and if thats the case you’re diamond won’t seem as large so you may very well get away with it.
If I were you, please keep in mind I am modest overall, I probably wouldn’t wear that big a stone especially in the environment you are in. That is also part of the reason I myself didn’t want a big ring, for in my field I would seem “less professional.”
Post # 5
I don’t think they go together. I would leave the ring at home in that scenario.
In fact, there were lots of articles recently about how a large (yes, a 2+ carat diamond is always large, one’s finger size cannot offset its priciness) is a disadvantage at work at for-profits for many reasons, especially but not limited to salary negotiations. A diamond that is larger than the norm at work is a career hindrance, it’s that simple.
My ring is not that large, I work in the for-profit sector, and there are still times when I feel it would be disadvantageous to wear it. It’s a high quality round brilliant and sparkles like crazy. That doesn’t look like the no-nonsense, professional image I want to project, say, during a big presentation. Men in particular would subconsciously judge me negatively on my sparkling hand (I may as well just throw a couple of “like”s and “OMG”s into my presentation vocabulary). We can try to pretend that what we wear doesn’t send multilayered social messages or that people will ignore them at work (not saying you are, but I see women trying to do that a lot in the real world regarding various aspects of their appearance), but neither is true. Just because something isn’t usually explicitly talked about doesn’t mean the consequences won’t occur.
Post # 6
@QuirkySocialite: There will ALWAYS be those people that judge you for this or that. Things that make no sense and things that absolutely do! Sure, some jerk might think you don’t need a COLA or raise or what not but most REASONABLE people would look at your ring, say “Hot Damn!” and then, realize that if you are a godo worker, you deserve the same as everyone else.
People will get over it. Get your damn ring.
Personally, I have this fight with myself from time to time because of some material items I have. I don’t want to be considered a show off or have people get the wrong idea of who I am but seriously, it’s MY life and I should do what makes ME happy.
YOU should do what makes you happy! Damn haters.
Post # 7
@LilRhodyGem: I disagree that “people will get over it.”
Post # 8
Personally, with a ring that size I would definitely have your concerns about advancing my career. It’s not right and it’s not fair, but you will be judged for it and it could have a negative impact.
Have you thought about maybe getting a smaller CZ stand in ring to wear at work? I know it would suck to not wear your engagement ring, but if you’re very career driven, it might be worth it.
Post # 9
@joya_aspera: I think most people will get over it once they stop judging the person for the rock and see what they are actually bringing to the table. At least in my industry, I don’t see it as a showstopper to a career.
Post # 10
@QuirkySocialite: I have a 2+ ct solitaire and the reactions have run the gamet. My one cousin in MI asked to see my ring, saw it and went “hmmph.” Some people I’ve worked with have made comments about its size that embarrassed me and made me feel awkward. However, in the end, it is the ring FH picked out and I love it. Should I ever feel it is not appropriate in all instances, I will wear my wedding band alone. You can do the same.
I think you should get what you want! You’re only supposed to do this thing once so GO FOR IT!
Post # 11
@QuirkySocialite: I work for a non-profit doing fundraising. I am getting engaged soon and the TCW of my ring will be almost 3 cts. and I am going to wear it all the time. I have collegues ranging from entry level to director level that have a wide range of ring sizes and no one ever says anything about it nor has it affected their promotions, etc. You did not buy it for yourslef, it was a gift from your fiance. And who cares, what if you had saved up money to by a designer bag or something for yourself? that should not affect your job in any way and who cares what people think. That’s just my experience in the non-profit world! Good luck and early Congrats!
Post # 12
I don’t think it’s a good idea to wear a flashy, expensive ring to a job interview, but it’s generally not as bad after you’ve gotten the job. I do work with nonprofits a lot and I think it really depends on what type of nonprofit you’re talking about.
Dealing with a lot of poverty issues? Not a good idea to wear it. Breast cancer research or similar? Fine.
Post # 13
I work non-profit. Most of our rings are less than one carat. Frankly, we don’t get paid enough to comfortably be able to afford more than that.
If someone came in with a 2 carat rock, there would definitely be some things said. It’s not right and it’s not fair, but there’d definitely be some looks here.
Post # 14
@QuirkySocialite: I work in the non profit field and have a 2+carat ring. I think it really depends on what kind of non profit you work for. I’ve worked in all areas, and currently work for a women’s organization that does some outreach in underserved and highly mobile communities, but I don’t do direct service, I mainly interact with our donors and board members… Some of their rings completely eclipse mine– and I’m in the midwest right now. I wore the ring while interviewing and had no problem negotiating a hire salary than they were offering- they don’t know where my ring came from, it could have been an heirloom ring, but they did know that we had just moved from Beverly Hills…
I wasn’t engaged when I worked for a DV shelter in brooklyn… I definitely would not have worn it to the shelters because it would not have been appropriate– IMO.
Post # 15
I work for a non profit and while my co-workers have had nothing to say about my ring, some of my clients (who are often more economically disadvantaged) have complimented me on it. But my ring is certainly not 2 carats. I do feel awkward about it sometimes. But I spend 40 hrs a week at work. Why bother even getting a ring if you are not going to wear it most of the time except while sleeping?
Post # 16
This is a bit of a pickle. I think Joya is onto something, but I think that personally I would get and wear the ring I love. People will always judge for a multitude of reasons. We have execs where I work that wear the same sparkly Pandora bracelets as I do, for example. Not exactly projecting a masculine image. Maybe I’m naive, but I think that if you generally dress professionally and show you’re a hard worker and valuable contributor, you will get that promotion.
We could all argue sexism in the workplace until we’re blue in the face. It really varies depending on situation. I’m young and attractive and pretty girly. So far it hasn’t negatively impacted me in the workplace that I know of. I’ve always been taken seriously, generally I’m well liked, and I have worked my way up in the five years I’m been at this office. I deal with a lot of “important” people who are much older than I am. I really haven’t had any problems. No, I have not worn a diamond engagement ring to work yet, but I don’t think I will suddenly be treated any differently.
Even if I were starting a new job I would wear my ring. If it’s a place that judges on stuff like that (to the point where I’d be denied a position there) I probably wouldn’t want to work there anyway.