(Closed) Latest attack on Gay Marriage in California — for Pro-gay rights folks

posted 7 years ago in LGBTQ
Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I read about this last week and it truly pisses me off. I wish there was something that I could do to make people change their minds because everyone has the right to wake up next to their husband/wife and smile knowing that they’re married.

Post # 4
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2009

That’s crazy. I love that article, By The Way.  And I know people are up in arms because the Constitution was written “Under God” and all that crap, but seriously, give me an fing break already!! The world as it is today can not be run on “God’s” word, things are so different then they were back when it was written. If it were God’s word, then women wouldn’t have any rights, and the only thing they would be good for is staying home and making babies.  

Ugh, I’m gonna stop now, cuz I am hurting from a neck injury and might not be able to stop!

Post # 5
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2009

@TheFutureMcBride: agreed. I was raised in a world where people were judged by their actions, not the color of their skin or their culture, and certainly not by their sexual orientation.  It still amazes me that people have these views, and unfortunately, all the religious fanatics are the ones behind it.  No matter what or who you are, we all still bleed the same…

Post # 6
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

Opponents to LBGTQ laws in general disgust me.  On a related note, the law firm that took $ from House Republicans to defend DOMA has already dropped the case and the partner who took the case has left the firm.  Karma bitches.  What I do like is the speculation that one of the reasons why the firm dropped the case was because Coca Cola (one of their biggest clients) directly pressured them to do so. 

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/behind-a-major-law-firms-decision-to-ditch-its-defense-of-doma.php?ref=fpa

 

Post # 7
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Worker bee

You can be against Gay Marriage and not have it be for religious reasons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Post # 8
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

@Gwent09: How is that? I fail to see a GOOD non-religious (or religious for that matter) argument against gay marriage.

Post # 9
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Bumble bee

Honestly, that article, while it makes some good points, is clearly biased and judgmental. Is responding to bias with bias really the right approach to take? 

Is it wrong for a black judge to hear any segregation cases or a female judge to rule on any abortion cases or a gay judge to rule on any gay rights cases? Of course not. But it’s not all that crazy to think that any human being could be influenced by their personal experiences. For example, say you have a female judge ruling on a rape case. And say she was recently brutally raped. One would hope that she would be able to separate her personal experience from her professional responsibilities. But we’re only human, and in this hypothetical situation, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the judge would be more harsh on the defendant than she might have otherwise been. I’m not a lawyer, but don’t judges sometimes refuse to hear cases because they themselves admit that they would be biased in that particular situation? 

In the situation your article is discussing, the judge may or may not have a strong personal desire to get married, and that desire may or may not subconsciously influence his work. I agree that this is quite unlikely. And I agree that using this as a SOLE reason to overturn the decision is silly. But I do think it’s a valid concern, and I understand why people who strongly oppose gay marriage would want to make sure that the judge hearing a case like this be completely unbiased. 

Post # 10
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

By their arguments, a religious judge couldn’t preside either because they might be against gay marriage for religious reasons, and thus be prejudiced in the opposite direction as judge walker!  or a hetero judge couldn’t rule either! we’re going to have to find a celebate atheist judge somewhere people!

 

…seriously, though.  This just shows their desperation.  Their case is based on nothing but animus, and they know it, we know it, and the world knows it.  They’re grasping at straws.

Post # 12
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

@Potatoes: Ditto. I would be very interested to hear a non-religious argument against gay marriage.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee

PS I find it very ironic that the same people preaching love and acceptance use phrases like “homophobic idiocy” or “opponents of LBGTQ laws disgust me” just because someone happens to have a different opinion.  

Post # 14
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Worker bee

Many people, religious and non-religious, feel that a marriage is a union between one man and one woman. 

You can certainly agree or disagree with those who hold that view, BUT, not everyone who has the view above has it because of religion.

Approximately 1/2 the country is not in favor of Gay Marriage.  If those in favor want to win the day and change opinion I don’t think name calling and insults make for the best method (no matter how frustrated one might be).

 

 

Post # 15
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

@GirlWithARing: It makes me mad, but I believe that everyone can have their opinion. We don’t have to agree. In fact, my best friend and I disagree about politics, religon, same sex marriage, the environment, and much more.

Post # 16
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2010

@Gwent09:  Okay, but why?

I’m not disputing the viewpoint itself, just asking on what it’s founded if not religion.

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