Post # 1
We have more friends (a married couple) from the U.S. staying with us, and the talk turned to citizenships. They wanted to spend at least 4 months in Europe but couldn’t because of some agreement with the U.S. they couldn’t stay more than three months. I can’t remember the name exactly, I believe it started with an S. The wife had grandparents who were Italian born and Italian citizens, but because of the time they moved to the U.S. they had to renounce their citizenships. But one of her grandfathers was awarded with honours and a pension from Italy after he renounced his citizenship so she wasn’t sure if she could get Italian citizenship that way or not. But the husband’s father was an Italian born citizen and so didn’t have to renounce, so they could probably try that way.
It led my Dad to bring up his issues with citizenship here in Australia. It now makes sense why he waited so long (until I was in my early teens) to become a citizen. If he took citizenship when he moved here, after the time required, he would have had to renounce his U.S. citizenship. So it seems to go in patches and waves of allowing dual citizenship and not, and it varies around the world.
My sister and I are both U.S. citizens from birth, because of our father being a U.S. citizen, so we have right of citizenship by descent. We can vote (although only in Federal elections I believe given that we never lived there), have to pay taxes & fill out returns (of course because of the double taxation agreements between the countries we would get exemptions) if we are above the threshold – something my father recently had to deal with regarding his recently passed mother’s estate, and have social security numbers.
It makes things a lot quicker & easier having two citizenships and passports when travelling in between the two countries, at least most of the time! There is still the juggling of what passport to leave on, and come back on, but usually it is fairly straight forward.
A European citizenship does sound good from what our friend said about being able to travel anywhere in Europe! I like my current dual citizenship though and wouldn’t give either of them up.
So what’s your story? Do you have just one citizenship, two? Did you have to renounce a citizenship if you moved countries & took a new citizenship, did you get one through your parents? Does it make things easier for you when you’re travelling? Have there been any challenges you have faced, what will it mean for your SO and any future children (if any)?
So bees, please share your experiences and feel free to answer any (or all) of the above questions.
Post # 2
USA. Born and raised (as is my DH). Currently reside here but am an ExPat internationally as work contracts require. Can travel anywhere in the world on my one passport unless the country has a ban on entry. Since I’ve not sought home ownership or other long term domicile activities abroad, I’ve not involved myself with sovereignty or citizenship issues beyond paying appropriate taxes and such “when in Rome”.
Post # 3
I’m a dual citizen – British/Australian. Moved to Australia, became Australian. My children are purely Australian citizens.
I would say the passport comes in handy but I’ve never spent more than a vaction in Europe or the UK.. I hate the country and would never want to live there.
However, my parents never became Australian citizens so I keep my dual to feel ‘connected’ or so I would be able to return home to them in some bizarre situation etc
Post # 4
I don’t think I would want to move to and live in the U.S., I like it there but to visit only! Similar to how you wouldn’t want to live in the U.K. I guess!
Post # 5
I’m Canadian/Portuguese residing in Canada but used to live in Portugal. My parents were born in Portugal but moved here to Canada at a young age and have their dual as well. Having my portuguese citizenship definitely helps when going back to Portugal..I skip the big lines at the airport and can easily travel anywhere within the EU.
Post # 6
Born and raised in the US. Dad’s parents were Irish, so I’m working on getting my Irish citizenship, then passport, for a few reasons:
If I ever wanted to work in Europe, I wouldn’t need a visa.
There are a number of countries that I plan on traveling to that have higher visa fees for US passports than EU ones.
I travel to a number of third world and/or dangerous countries. The US will not pay ransom for hostages. And when a friend was in Nepal during the earthquake last year- the Brits, Irish, Aussies etc all got flown out by their respective armies- US citizens? They got to stay in Kathmandu with no options to get out. Also, it never hurts to have two embassies to go to in the event of an emergency, versus one.
Post # 7
My parents immigrated to the U.S. from Romania and became naturalized here. I was born here, so I am a U.S. citizen but I also have an automatic citizenship in Romania because my parents were born there. Romania is a part of the EU so there are extended benefits that go with that. I’m fairly certain my children will also automatically gain dual citizenship if they are born in U.S., but it gets a little more complicated with my Fiance getting RO citizenship once we are married. I think he has to be married to be more a minimum of 5 years or so and pass a proficiency test. This probably wasn’t super helpful, but I thought I’d share my story.
Post # 8
I have two citizenships; American/Brazilian. I became an American 3 years ago and couldnt be prouder
Post # 9
- Wedding: Breckenridge, CO
I’m dual US (from birth) and Canadian (from parents- mom is dual dad only Canadian with a green card)
I have 2 passports I love it! I use whichever is cheaper/more lenient for visas and feel all Jason Bourne
My fiancé is dual US/Panamanian so I want to add a third after we get married >:3 is that even possible? I want that shorter line at the Panama City airport dammit
I don’t think I’ll be able to get my fiancé a Canadian passport instantly through marriage but he is definitely interested in moving/lliving there are some point
Post # 10
I am born and raised in the US, been almost 20 years in Germany.
I cannot have dual citizenship in Germany, but soon I qualify if I give up my US citizenship (which I am considering) and become a german citizen.
Yeah, it’s convenient to have European Citizenship for long travel plans and all, but I really think it’s bonkers as an only reason.
I am really sad that I can’t have both citizenships and only one of my three children have both (they all qualify due to birth parents) I have waited a really long time because I was on the fence about my children (if I renounce those two won’t be able to get dual)
But that said: I have lived most of my adult life over here, I feel more connected to this culture than my own (though I do sometimes miss my language and some wonderful things from “home”)
I really want to participate fully here, meaning I would like to vote here and also never worry about being deported.
And seriously, beyond that I think it’s amazing to be able to live in another country if the fancy strikes you… 🙂
Post # 11
Do you have just one citizenship, two?
Did you have to renounce a citizenship if you moved countries & took a new citizenship, did you get one through your parents?
My parents renounced citizenship for a new one and I have that one but not the old one. I got one trough birth, one through parents and one becasue I ived in that country long enough. 2 are from EU countries so it’s not some sort of great advantage. One would be plenty.
Does it make things easier for you when you’re travelling?
Have there been any challenges you have faced, what will it mean for your SO and any future children (if any)?
nope. I donno what it means
Post # 12
I was born and raised in Spain and moved to the US as a teen. I became a US citizen 7 years ago. Unfortunately I had to renounce citizenship in Spain when I did that. However, I can reclaim citizenship over there and have dual citizenship, but it takes a lot of time and documentation. I have neither.
It really wouldn’t make a difference as far as traveling goes. In Spain I would legally have my birth name which is different than my name here (hubs last name). So I would never be able to travel with my Spanish passport.
Post # 13
- Wedding: November 2017 - France
I’m a US citizen born and raised in the US Virgin Islands but I don’t have voting rights unless I move to a state.
My son had dual citizenship US/French
SO was born and raised in France
I’m now currently living in France and waiting on my documents to gain dual citizenship.
Eta: I don’t have to renounce my US citizenship, I thought I would have to but no, I can gain one through being married to a French citizen and paying a proficiency test.
Post # 14
Yeah I am not 100% sure what it means for any children Fiance & I have, but I do know he (FI) can’t get citizenship through me, he would have to live over there for the minimum time, fill out all the paperwork, etc. As for our kids, I don’t think they would automatically get citizenship (unless they were born there) in the U.S., but I am not definite on that.
Post # 15
I’m a dual citizen – New Zealand (I was born there) and United States (because my parents are US citizens).
My NZ passport will come in handy if Trump becomes president. Peace out, America!