(Closed) Looking back on our Wedding Photography….

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Post # 3
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

Okay, I am a wedding photographer here, and I am going to be pretty blunt: 

Yes, I think that your photographer screwed up missing the photos she did, however it can happen to a seasoned photographer, too. I once didn’t get time to get individual shots of the bridesmaids at getting ready because makeup was running late. The whole day ran late, out of my control, and even though I tried to round up the girls a number of times to get those individual shots it just didn’t happen. I tried one last time at the reception and it still was just impossible. I finally asked the bride if the individual shots were important to her (they were more for me, really, as I like to get them) and she said she didn’t care. 

That same wedding, they didn’t make time for family shots with the groom’s family at the house. The mother wasn’t there and then at the church all had disappeared. I finally managed to corral them into a corner at the reception and take a photo against the best background I had. In their case, they just wanted one shot, anywhere, they did not really care. This is despite the fact it was a high end wedding with a lot of details. 

My point here is to illustrate that these things happen to every photographer. That being said, she should have communicated with you if there were things missing from your ‘important photos list’. 

Regarding the white wall, it could have been that she needed open shade rather than harsh light. Nine times out of ten I will shoot where the light is best with a neutral background rather than choose a gorgeous background with awful light. Esepcially if there is only 20 minutes and little time to set up lights to help with back light. Just a thought on that one? 

Regarding ‘more photos’, how many did you get (other than the missed ones)? Because my clients get between 600-800 photos from their day. The advent of digital and newbie photographers who don’t cull mean that brides are expecting thousands of shots, quality be damned, and it is isn’t realistic. 

If you wanted more locations then, really, that’s on you. Locations take time. I tell my client that for every location they add to photos they need to add an hour (if this is locations that aren’t within one venue, that is’ because traffic, getting in and out of cars, etc etc etc take time

I think that yes, it is disappointing if she missed things that are important to you, but that you need to remember that weddings are fluid events and unless there is communication from both parties then these things happen. I also think there’s no point dwelling on this if you haven’t even seen her photos yet. 

Post # 4
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

@ChampagneBlushWedding:  

I’m very sorry for what you experienced.  I know there’s no point in telling you that this is what you get when you hire someone without experience (and second shooting is not the same as doing it yourself… not at all).  I don’t mention that to make you feel bad because what’s done is done, more as a cautionary tale to other brides currently looking for a photographer.

Bottom line… you got hurt by someone who didn’t have the experience to know to capture all those things correctly.  Sometimes photographers just starting out are so much more focused on the detail shots and other artistic things because they are trying to build their portfolios… they might forget that a “boring” photo with mom and dad is one thing the bride really wants, much more than a dozen angles of her shoes.  Personally, I think this concept is way too lost on newer photographers, especially in the Pinterest area.  I doubt you will be the only bride who experiences regret because of this.

Again, I know that’s not helpful to you at the moment and I’m sorry.  The best thing I can say to you is that you had a beautiful wedding, you are married to the man you love, and you probably at least did save a ton of money on your photography.  Try not to sweat it!  You are likely going to get many beautiful photos from your day… hopefully you will find many you love to make up for the ones that are missing.

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

Did you give them a list? I don’t think you should ever make assumptions that a wedding photographer knows all the family/friend pictures you want. As simple as it sounds, I literally gave a list of all the pictures I wanted to my photographer before the wedding. I’m fairly certain he got almost all of them, or at least didn’t miss any of the very important ones. For instance I don’t know if I got a picture of just me and my parents, but I have me, my parents and my sister, which is close enough.

Even if it’s a pro-photographer, I don’t think it’s fair to nitpick every picture they “missed” if you didn’t give them an explicit list, unless it’s a basic thing like walking down the aisle, your first dance, cake cutting, etc. When it comes to family and group pictures, every family is different.

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

@ChemistryBride:  

Yup, if it isn’t on a list it is a lot harder to make it happen. Even then, my contract explicitly states that I don’t guarantee that every photo on the list can or will be shot. 

And yes, at the end of the day, for brides looking for a photographer pleae pick one with experience if you can stretch your budget to make it happen. These things are far less likely to happen with a seasoned pro than a newbie. 

Post # 9
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

@ChemistryBride:  Most pro photog’s on here normally say that the only list they want is a list of important family members with whom the bride desires photos… otherwise, they shouldn’t have to be told.  So yes, a list of family photos desired is important… although I don’t think it takes a genius photographer to figure out that the bride probably wants a photo with her parents (or other most special family members).  A list ahead of time makes things easier, but even if they have neglected to get one, the photographer can still tell the bride “Hey, let’s get those family photos done now.”  They might not feel like making time for it at the moment, but it’s something that always gets regretted afterwards.

As for making a list…. other than family photos, it is not necessary.  If you’ve looked at the photographer’s blog you probably know if she routinely takes photos of the rings, for example, or a fun photo of the groom and bridesmaids, etc, etc… If that’s something she’s used to doing, it will get covered.  If not, you can let her know ahead of time that you’d like it, but for the most part, you should be hiring a photographer whose style (and types of photos they tend to capture) you know you already like.   That’s a lot better than trying to get a photog to change what they normally do.

And no…. you should not need a list of EVERYTHING.  The photographer (hopefully, if you hired someone who is actually a pro) should know what they are doing, and is not going to miss obvious ones like bridal party, bride walking down the aisle, first dance, etc. 

 

Post # 10
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

@seAprilbride:  

Re: lists, I specifically mean the family photos. I think i’d die if I were given a list of everything I had to shoot that day down to the rings. It’s autopilot for me, these days, to get details and all those things and they take me like 2 minutes too. 

People sometimes want some odd combinations and also there are sometimes tensions with family that I am not aware of. In one case, my bride did not want a photo alone with her sister as they have a hugely acrimonious relationship (with good reason, the sister was a B and my bride was the loveliest girl ever). If I hadn’t known that in advance, I’d have tried to get a photo with the two of them together which would have been stressful for all involved. 

I don’t carry the list around, my assistant does, and it really helps in case there is something that I have missed somehow. Nine times out of ten, we’re all good, but it is good to have the family list to jog our memories if something isn’t right. 

Like I said, it sounds like the OP’s photographer is inexperienced and that she dropped the ball on some pretty obvious shots but I think it is also important to note that photographers are not infallible and weddings are fluid events so sometimes it is hard to get a ‘must’ shot. What a seasoned pro will do is communicate and make more than one effort to make it happen. 

Post # 11
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

i understand your disappointement. there a few photos that i didn’t get either (my list of photos that were missed actually is similar to yours) , but it was mostly my fault for not putting them on the list and it was such a crazy day that i totally forgot about it.

but i really like the photos that we did get, so i just try not to think about the shots that we missed.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

@ChampagneBlushWedding:  That’s really unfortunate.  But as a plus, she didn’t miss any of you and your groom, and it sounds like she did get some family photos.

It’s the family ones and the ones of you and your husband that you will want to frame and display.  The ones she missed… well, those would have more likely have gone into a photo album and ignored.

Just think, 10 to 15 years from now, you will sit down with your kids and look at your wedding pictures.  Your kids will want to see you, grandma, their aunt… they aren’t necessarily going to care about the pictures with you and your bridal party. 

Those pictures are obviously fun to have and unfortunate you didn’t get, but she did capture the true treasures you will look at for the rest of your life.

Post # 14
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

I’m very sorry that happened to you. Being an assistant is so different than being a lead photog Assistants take order and direction and aren’t used to running the show and making sure it all happens. Hopefully she will clone out that men’s room sign!:)

Post # 15
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

@seAprilbride:  I never said you needed to give them a list of everything, maybe it’s not clear but I was talking about family and group pictures. Obviously I didn’t give them a list of things like rings, first kiss (which I did mention in my PP) but if there were specific details that were very important to me, then yes I put them down. All the ones the OP listed here were family and bridal party pictures. 

Post # 16
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

@ChemistryBride:  Yeah… I wasn’t saying that you said that, but there was another thread on here recently where some brides were talking about giving their photogs a 60 item list that included those obvious shots… so I was thinking about that in my reply.

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