(Closed) Looks like I'm losing my job after 12yrs w/ the company. What to do?!

posted 5 years ago in Career
Post # 2
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

I’m not sure why a lawyer would get involved.  Nothing you’ve said here sounds illegal to me.

Post # 3
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Buzzing Beekeeper

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Petals2002:  That does suck, but I don’t think a lawyer would be able to do anything. In most locations employers can dismiss any non-union employee for any reason except protected ones like race, disability, veteran status, etc. Are you covered by a bargaining agreement, or is there any reason your employment would not be considered “at will”?

Post # 4
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Bumble Beekeeper

Would you be ok with relocating for a short amount of time? You could agree to relocate, have them set up temporary housing for you, and then you go back and forth. In the meantime, you can more leisurely look for a different job in your desired area.

It is easier finding a job while you still have one. You never know what awesome job is just around the corner!

Post # 6
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Helper bee

Honestly, being able to stay employed at a company that moved their HQ in 2008 until now has been a gift. It sounds like they gave you plenty of time and I can’t imagine it was never suggested to you that you need to be in the office some days of the week. Really nothing that a lawyer could do unless you had an employment agreement. Hopefully you will be offered a severance package which will cover you during the time you’re job hunting. Good luck!

 

Post # 8
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Buzzing Beekeeper

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Petals2002:  Sounds like your co-worker is being sympathetic and supportive but doesn’t really understand employment law. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been doing well. Unless you have a contract, they can let you go for any reason or no reason at all (except illegal ones, which this is not). Since they’re happy with your performance, maybe they’ll give you some good recommendations for companies near your current location. Or put something helpful on your LinkedIn profile or something? I’d just be honest with them and come up with a transition plan that works for both parties. I hope it works out.

Post # 9
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Bumble bee
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Petals2002:  I’m sorry things are going this way – it sucks after 12 years, but it doesn’t sound like your employers are being unreasonable either. It seems like a clash in needs and expectations.

I agree with you that there’s not really any point in dragging things out by suggesting you might move when you know that is not the case. It will only delay the inevitable and piss off the people who have a say in the details of your severance package and reference for a new job. 

Have you had a discussion with your VP about the exact reasons that the current arrangement isn’t satisfying them, and why they want you at HQ? Perhaps if you understand what they want out of the working relationship, there is a small chance that you may be able to suggest/find another compromise that could work for you both?

Wishing you the best of luck. Treat yourself to something nice while you’re going through all this stress!

Post # 10
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Busy bee

Sounds like now is a good time to dust off your resume and start hitting up some interviews!

Post # 11
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: April 2017

I would say if they do ask you to leave, do so graciously. Twelve years at a company (which will hopefully provide you with an excellent recommendation) will go a long way when you look for a new job. I’d agree with others that a lawyer probably can’t help.

Post # 12
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Newbee

It sounds to me like you’ve invested 12 years in becoming a loyal and valued employee that has a great deal of experience to bring to the table. 

I have been with a company for 12 years as well that I started at the bottom with and have moved up into management, carving out what I feel is a fairly succesful career doing something I found a great passion for.  I just built a house a year ago, have little money for retirement saved and have a mortgage and a girlfriend whom I would like to marry and provide for and I am the bread winner.  I know of little beyond the walls of this company.  It is the only “real” place I’ve ever worked.  I started when I was 22.  Last month they were acquired by a huge competitor.  Many close friends and co-workers were laid off.  All the dreams and aspirations I had and worked so hard for were gone.  All the plans I had made had vanished.  I was lost.

One month later I have been offered a job at this competitor, been offered a job from an old boss who had moved on a year ago or so who valued my loyalty and dedication, and have had countless opportunities for interviews after putting my resume up on all the popular job websites making sure I emphasized those 12 years of experience.  FWIW, I don’t even have a college degree so I was scared shitless I would lose everything.  I still don’t know where I’ll end up, exactly what I’ll be doing or making for income, if we’ll need to move from the beautiful house I just built etc.  

What I’ve learned is sometimes you need to be knocked out of your comfort zone to appreciate what you have and what’s important.  It’s an easy cliche, but it’s the plain and simple truth.  I read an article the other day that asked what would you do if you lost everything…I mean everything, and could only get two things back, the rest lost forever.  Without a moments hesitation, I would choose the woman I hope to marry, and the dog we rescued together from a kill shelter 5 years ago.  That is all that is important to me.  No job, money, “things” could ever replace either of them, ever, period.  

Instead of worrying about what is going to happen, I started planning our engagement a few days ago.  I signed up here for inpiration on the ring and proposal.  We may struggle to pay the bills, we may lose the fancy house, we’ll have bad times, but thick or thin, we’ll have each other to fall back on.

Life is always going to throw you off every now and again, many times when you least expect it.  Trust and invest in yourself, don’t be afraid to try something new and get out of your comfort zone, and remember who/what is important to you and you’ll be just fine.

P.S.  Network, network, network! Use Linkedin, and make connections to hedge your bets for next time by building relationships now if you’re not already doing so.  😉

Best of luck,

J   

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Post # 14
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Buzzing bee

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Petals2002: This really sucks and I’m sorry you’re going through it. It’s unfair that companies can do this an get away with it however you’ve been really lucky so far that they’ve allowed you to work from home. Most companies would have said no. Unfortunately that’s just what happens sometimes and if the company has their HQ elsewhere and want your position based out of there then it’s unreasonable for you to expect them to change things around just for you. Most businesses are all about the bottom line and profits and if one employee isn’t able to give them what they need (in this case moving), then they have to do what’s best for the company. Personally I think you’re being smart about thinking about getting your resume out there. Hopefully your severance package will be good enough to cover you until you find another job if they do choose to let you go.

Post # 15
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: January 2016 - 1950s themed bar

Very good advice I was given was (essentially) that at the end of the day, your employer doesn’t care about you, so you shouldn’t care about them. I felt so guilty about resigning from an amazing workplace after my bosses had given me a raise and trained me in so many ways…I felt like I was throwing it in their face. Now I have another job that is less of a commute, same money, and is much more flexible/suited to my lifestyle.

It’s not the same thing, but I guess what I’m trying to say is that there are always different opportunities out there and I’m sure you’ll find something. Perhaps if you’ve ever thought about studying, now could be a good time? And it sounds like you have a very supportive Fiance which puts you in a good position to take your time and find something you enjoy…the fact that you will likely cut your salary in half is a shame, but I hope that you won’t have to do that, or at least can find something close to your pay grade…Perhaps you could find another mobile position with another company. And there’s no harm in telling work-related contacts you’re looking for something. 

Good luck!!!

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