(Closed) Withholding info from your venue?

posted 6 years ago in Venue
Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

I told them straight out, because most venues have set prices for specific functions. If you lie to them at first, they will eventually find out what the purpose of your function will be.

Post # 5
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2012

I don’t have any advice.

BUT I have recently found myself in a similar situation.

Mr TTR and I have had a reason now to relocate our Wedding Ceremony.  Our original venue (a Hotel) said they’d let us get married on the property, overlooking the ocean… just the 2 of us with our Officiant NO CHARGE (as we were Guests staying in the Hotel)

Our new venue (also a Hotel) has told us their flat rate for Weddings is close to $ 2000.  Now mind you, at this particular Hotel the “Wedding Dept” is actually the “Catering Dept”… so that is no doubt WHY there is a $ 2000 fee for usage… and on top of that they’d normally tack on the costs for Catering the Reception.

BUT of course, in our situation we won’t be having a Reception (as ours is an Elopement) … we just love the Hotel (and will be staying there part of our Honeymoon… in their Honeymoon Suite at a very EXPENSIVE RATE per night).

We want to marry on the Hotel Grounds, simply because WE LOVE THE HOTEL…

We too are contemplating… now not being totally upfront with them either.  Booking the Honeymoon Suite, and making arrangements for our Officiant and Photographer to meet us at the Hotel, and take the 10 minutes or so to say our Vows in the Garden at the rear of the Hotel, away from the main area… honestly no-one is probably even going to know we are there for that whole 10 minutes.

Not to mention the fact that it will be an afternoon mid-week, and in the Shoulder Season… and more than likely the Hotel won’t have any other events scheduled for that day

I know that there has to be a better way… than paying them $ 2000.  And for all of us to get on the same page… but todate I haven’t found it.  Especially so, considering the fact that in the past I’ve blogged tons about this Hotel and how AWESOME it is… and probably will do the same again in the future (even tho we have this one bug-a-boo with them)

Lol, you would think they’d have some sort of calibrated / pro-rated “event fee” for smaller events for their guests staying at the hotel… I’d certainly be willing to pay out something… just not $ 2000 for 10 minutes !!

 

Post # 6
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2013

@autumnmountainbride:  I think though, for the most part, the “jacked up” prices are justified.  A 50th Wedding Anniversary party or Communion/Confirmation Party/Sweet 16/etc. are not the same as a Wedding, as far as a catering establishment is concerned.  It’s a different crowd, different amount of preparation (length of use of the space), different amount of alchohol/food consumption, etc.

So, while you may not feel it’s fair that you’re being charged more for a wedding, the establishment is entitled to charge you more and you can choose to book with them or elsewhere.  I think you’d just be shooting yourself in the foot by not being upfront, but that’s just my opinion.  

Post # 7
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort

At the places I visited, whether I was having a wedding or another party, the packages we were looking at had the same prices. Parties that aren’t wedding receptions but have a 4 hour receptions, a cocktail hour, and a bar are pretty rare, so I don’t know how you could get a different price by pretending it was some other type of party.

Post # 8
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

@autumnmountainbride:  A long time ago, and perhaps, still, my copy is outdated; the book Bridal Bargains, advocated keeping the purpose from the venue when looking because of bridal inflation.  However, if you and your mom or you and your fiance and your shiny engagement ring are looking at venues a year before your event, they probably will guess, especially if you’re looking for a Saturday evening.

I’d simply be honest.  Is there inflation for weddings?  Yes, no, and maybe.  Some venues, had wildly different prices, but a lot charged the same prices.  Or if they charged more for weddings, the less expensive events could only be held on a day other than Saturday.

My venue’s wedding coordinator has been tremendously helpful recommending vendors and resources, that she probably wouldn’t have mentioned if I’d gone in saying it was a retirement party.  The coordinator at my venue has saved me a lot of money and I’m saving the cost of a day of coordinator because she fulfills that function.  My venue didn’t have wedding inflation, but being up front has been very helpful in many ways.

Do what’s right for you, but unless you live in a major city like NY or LA, I doubt you’ll find it’s worth what you’ll lose.  Good luck whatever way you look into your venues.

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

@autumnmountainbride:  One suggestion, since you want to bring in your own food and save money, contact the parks and recreation department in your area and the surrounding areas about what sort of rentals they have.  Some just have park shelters, but some have nice indoor facilities.  I know one small town near where I grew up that had a beautiful river front bulding with a fireplace and pretty beams, that included tables and chairs with a lovely patio by the water for ceremonies – it rented for less than $100 per day, had a full kitchen you could bring in a caterer or cater on your own.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

IF a place charges more for weddings, they will charge you more for a wedding no matter when they find out it IS in fact a wedding. While you may not think it should be any different than any other event, you don’t see the additional work that goes into it from a cateror perspective.

Post # 14
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2012

My venue just charges 1 flat fee to rent the space, regardless of what event.  But if we went with all inclusive packages, then yes, weddings tended to be more than quiceniearas, bridal and baby showers.  Photographers also had different prices for wedding packages as opposed to say, maternity pics or family pics.  And wedding cakes tend to be a lot pricier than a birtdhay cake.  It’s just the nature of the wedding industry.  I tried NOT to pay extra for certain things because it’s for a wedding. 

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