(Closed) Male’s role in abortions (Play nice now!)

posted 10 years ago in Intimacy
Post # 166
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Buzzing bee
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@Atalanta: Men don’t have the option to abort.

Because they can’t get pregnant….

Post # 167
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Honey bee
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@VegasSukie:

the point remains that the woman gets to dictate EVERYTHING including whether or not the clump of cells gets aborted or becomes a baby, whether the baby is raised by blood-family or strangers (i.e. – adoption)

Um why don’t you go back to page 3 where I had this same conversation where you agreed that men have the same right in this!  If the man wants custody, the woman can’t put the child up for adobtion! And she has to pay child support *gasp*.  So You’re now arguing for the sake of aruing saying things you already agreed were BS.

Post # 168
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@chasesgirl:  I wasn’t saying the mother doesn’t have obligations, too.

In fact, she’s going to bear singificantly more of them, since it costs a hell of a lot more to care for a kid of any age than $280.00 a month (median child support payment in the U.S.) or $350.00 a month (average child support payment).

My argument is not that she bears none of the financial burden, on that he must, too.

Post # 170
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Buzzing bee
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I am frankly embarrassed about some of the backwards thinking going on in this post and I hope none of you who think the man should have the option of walking away and not helping support the child if he decides he doesn’t want it ever get pregnant and have to deal with this situation personally. Because I guarantee you’d be singing a different tune when your child went into the hospital and you had medical bills to pay, on top of everything else you already shoulder alone for the child, and you called the father to help pay them and he said, “You told me it was totally fair that I got to choose the ability to buy a laptop whenever I wanted over paying for a kid you chose to have.” You’d be like, “Why would anyone ever say that, this is a child you helped create, you have to pay!” and then you’d think, OH, WAIT, THAT ONE TIME IN A WEDDINGBEE POST I ARGUED THE OPPOSITE, HOW CRAZY.

Post # 171
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@sarahRN:

Not only do women get paid less, but the reason women get paid less is becasue of the fact they can get prgnant! Double wammie!

Post # 173
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Worker bee
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So men and women contribute 50% to an unintended pregnancy and it’s unfair to men that they have responsibility in this because women have the final say over what happens to their own body? Oh well, when has there EVER, EVER, EVER been equality between men and women?! So let’s move on from that and think about whats the best possible outcome for the child? Considering we can’t make a man be a good role model, let’s atleast help to make a stable financial environment for the child!

Post # 174
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Buzzing bee
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Assuming a woman doesn’t have the option to end her pregnancy, are we all cool with her just leaving the kid in a dumpster?

Post # 175
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

I think that the scenario in which a man is faced with lifelong guilt over an abortion of an embryo or fetus which he may have fertilized is a bit of a straw man here.  I know the OP’s friend was feeling this way, but part of the issue is that he is dealing with a lot of guilt over someone else’s decision.  Legally and morally, he is not culpable for his one-time partner’s decision to terminate a pregnancy. 

While it may not have been what he wanted, it was not his decision.  Whether or not he had sex with the woman was his decision and I don’t know if he would have regretted it without facing that particular consequence head-on.  I don’t know the guy and I’m really trying to avoid any sort of attack on your friend, but I feel like in this circumstance if a guy is really facing years of guilt, maybe he should address why he feels so guilty over what was ultimately someone else’s decision.

ETA: I may have left out the point, which is that I don’t think that the concern of the law or society should be eliminating people feeling bad about other people’s decisions.  There are plenty of times when people (maybe even people I have some influence on) make decisions I don’t like.  We need to realize that there are points at which every person’s sphere of decision-making rules out, and no one should ever have the decision to determine what another person does with their body.

Post # 177
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Buzzing bee
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@chasesgirl:GET IT GIRL!!!!  YOU ARE KILLING IT UP IN HERE!

Post # 179
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

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@teaadntoast:Assuming a woman doesn’t have the option to end her pregnancy, are we all cool with her just leaving the kid in a dumpster?

Well with the way Vegas and Chase think then yes! A woman can just up and walk away without any thought of the child’s well being. Except it STILL unfair, that woman had to carry that baby for 9 months, suffered financially, physically and emotionally. So now it’s unfair to the woman..

Post # 180
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@teaadntoast: Nice pics! Wink  That baby is cute!  Still doesn’t change my mind and i DO understand the difference between a clump of cells and a baby.  One BECOMES the other if the MOTHER doesn’t kill it.

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