(Closed) Maternity Leave Laws are Depressing…

posted 9 years ago in Babies
Post # 17
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2011

@MrsCarnival:  Did you just research general laws, or what your company is actually offering?  I also work for a company with <50 employees.  The maternity policy is 6 weeks at half pay, then 2 additional weeks unpaid. You can also add vacation time to that. And if that’s not enough, FMLA is an option. Even though they are not required by law to offer this, they still do.

I agree though, 12 weeks is still short, and if it’s unpaid then it sucks all the more.

Post # 19
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

So sad/ridiculous. I was pretty shocked when I found out that most places don’t cover PAID leave. I just always assumed the 12 weeks were paid. How can you afford to take 3 months off work?? I mean… we COULD… but we’d be seriously dipping into savings. Which is not when you want to do that– right when you have a kid!

How does it work in canada? Does the employer pay your salary for a year? Or does the government pay it? Are you guaranteed your position back? Do you make 100% of your previous salary? 

Not that it really *matters* of course because I’m not moving to canada any time soon, but I’m just curious.

Post # 20
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Honey bee

6 weeks does sound like too little  🙁

i am in Canada and i have decided that while i am eligible to take a year, i am “only” taking 4 months.  All my friends look at me like i’m psycho when i tell them this and i always respond by saying “that’s still so much more than what people get in the states!”. Plus, i won’t be working at my job long enough to be eligble to get paid leave, so that’s 4 months with only partial gov’t assistance (which won’t be much since I haven’t worked much this year). We need the full salary I will be making to survive and it’s also the start of my career so i think taking a year off after working for 2.5 months at my dream job that i just landed would be silly, baby or no baby.

Post # 21
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2011

I am curious about this!  Wouldn’t it seem like there would be a lot of people who would abuse the system and just get pergnant so they don’t have to work?  I could see that happening. 

My company gave me 12 weeks off.  1 week of PTO, then 5 weeks paid (3 weeks of full pay and 2 weeks of 60% pay)  and the last 6 weeks were unpaid.  I fortunately (and unfortunately) had to have surgery, so I was able to take my last 6 weeks as a new “disability” and I got paid for it.

Post # 22
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

@CorgiTales:  

 

Ok it’s been a while since I’ve been on so I can give you a little rundown on the Canadian policy but not 100% accuracy. You have to work for at least 600 hours in the past year before you take maternity leave, in which you had to have been paying towards ei benefits. Once you take maternity leave you get paid that for a maximum of 17 weeks. And then Parental benefits kick in, which is upto 35 weeks. So in total you will get 52 weeks of paid maternity/parental leave. Both parents can take it, but the government takes that into consideration, and they must share the benefits. Your pay will be decreased, by 40% I believe.

I took my maternity leave at 31 weeks pregnant because I was so big, and my work required alot of running around, I was tired. so for 9 weeks of my pregnancy I got to lie around, sleep in, eat twinkies, take my dear dog for a walk, and just hang out. Some of the best weeks of my life, prior to my sons birth of course. But I think I only started getting paidby week 32 or something? And yes, you are guaranteed your job back, as long as you notified your employer, and have a handwritten letter saying when you plan to return.

 

Post # 23
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Honey bee

@CorgiTales:  from what i understand in Canada is that the gov’t will pay you 55% of your salary for a year, though you have to be working at least 600 hours to be eligible for it (which I should be between my old part time job and my new full time that i will be at for 2.5 months before my leave).  But the 55% will be based on what i made up until then, not 55% of my new full time salary, so I personally won’t be getting a whole lot.  Then a lot of companies offer top ups to that.  So if i was able to work 13 weeks at my new job, they would top up my leave (give me 45% of my salary) while I am off.  Unfortunately it is exactly 12 weeks from my start date to my due date, so i will be taking my leave unpaid due to likely not being able to hold in my baby one more week!  I am eligible to take the leave unpaid from my company though because i was HIRED more than 13 weeks before my due date and that qualifies me for a year unpaid, with the guarantee of my job when I return.

Post # 25
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Honey bee

@Cash000:  i would have loved to taken a couple of weeks before my due date to do just that!  But i decided i am going to push myself up until my due date just to make as much money as possible AND since i am not taking a full year, i want as much of what i am taking to be with the baby actually being here.

Post # 26
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 1992

@Lolasmomma:  I highly doubt people would abuse the system.  You still have to pay for the babies for 18 years! 

Post # 27
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2013 - St. Augustine Beach, FL

We’re stuck in the 80s as far as maternity leave laws are concerned.  The way they work is to discourage women from working after having children even though all of our other laws make it practically impossible for most 3 person families (mom, dad, & baby) to survive comfortably on the average single income.  It forces mothers to choose between staying home to raise their children in the traditional sense or going back to work to afford a decent lifestyle for the child to grow up in.  Let’s not even get into the punishment that befalls single mothers when they give birth.

I wish we were more progressive like France where moms are paid to stay home and raise their babies for the first year. We would have to pay more taxes but I wonder how it would affect the incidence of mental health disturbances in the population because being separated from your mother before the natural weaning time is not healthy by any means.  I’m a mom who plans to return to work ASAP but I do believe it’s having a major effect on the next generation of children.

Post # 28
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

And just to further clarify on Canadian mat leave policies, the 55% of your salary that you get while on leave is up to a maximum of ~$1600/month. It’s certainly nothing to sneeze at and I’m definitely grateful to have that available to me (keep in mind, this is Employment Insurance, and we all pay into it – it’s not just a government hand-out), but there is a limit on it. It’s not like you can live the high life on that amount!

Post # 29
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

@hergreenapples:  

Yeah thats true too. But one parent can still work to make up for the lack of income as well. Plus the parent on leave can work part time up to a certain amount as well, without it effecting the payments (not much though).

Post # 30
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Honey bee

@hergreenapples:  oh i didn’t know about that!  but with my part time and new full time salary, i am not sure how they will calculate how much i get, but if it is that much or close to it, i will be happy  🙂

Post # 31
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

Can’t you use paid time off?  I am not allowed to use vacation, but I can use sick time at full pay – and I currently have 3 months (12 work weeks) saved up.  So theoretically I could get paid for my entire FMLA time off.

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