(Closed) Maternity Leave Laws are Depressing…

posted 10 years ago in Babies
Post # 32
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

@crayfish:  My son said the same thing when he recently returned from a trip to Geneva.  It’s awful.  Six weeks is nowhere near enough time for a mother to spend with her newborn infant.  I wonder when/if the US will ever catch up and put our priorities where they should be.

Post # 34
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

Oh wait the max is 485 per week.

Post # 35
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Honey bee

I’m Canadian too but I’m not here to gloat.  I had no idea until joining the Bee how inhumane the maternity laws are in the States and it’s upsetting to hear about mother’s forced back to work while their babies are still so small.  Breastfeeding must be a nightmare for a lot of new moms.

And yes, people definitely abuse the system here a little bit, but it’s a small minority.  Like PPs said, you do have to work before you can receive EI benefits.

Post # 36
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2011

I want to point out a possible up-side to all U.S. bees.  I know it sucks to have basically no maternity leave to speak off.  I come from Germany, where maternity leave starts 6 weeks BEFORE your due date, it’s illegal for your employer to fire you from the start of your pregnancy until 4 months after birth, it’s illegal for the new mother to work the first 8 weeks after birth (12 weeks for preemies and multiples) while you still get your full salary at this time, you can take one year of paid maternity leave, and up to 3 years unpaid, which can be split between the mother and father.  Sound good?

Well, my friend in Germany came back from her one year maternity leave only to get demoted transferred into a position she hated and that made her work hours worse. But hey, she still was employed there, so it’s all good and legal.  Trying to switch jobs in Germany?  If you are a young woman of childbearing age, good luck! Resumes in Germany usually include date of birth and a picture of the applicant, often also marital status and number of children.  The mindset “if we hire her, she’ll be out for a year in no time” is not unheard of.

There is pros and cons to everything. While I’d love to get 6 months off, I also like that my having a child is not considered a major career stopper.

Post # 37
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

@mrskrumpet:  Cheers to that!  I am so thankful for that, although I think I would take longer anyway.

Post # 38
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Honey bee

@Cash000:  And that’s 485/week before taxes.  You take home 824 every two weeks (if you’re at the max).

Post # 39
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

After reading all these, im so glad I live in Canada. We all get 12 months paid maternity leave as long as you worked in the last 6 months leaving up to the end of the pregnancy.  Dads can even take 12 months off too for parental leave.

 

Post # 40
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

@Juliepants:  I wouldn’t say inhumane.  I’d have to stay home for a year and am perfectly happy taking only a few months off.  

Post # 41
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

@AprilJo2011:  Wow, we have 1 year leave in Canada and roughly similar sage-guards and I have never heard of/encountered that happening.

Post # 42
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: January 1993

@Lolasmomma:  Ha, yeah, because I’d totally go through pregnancy, labor and delivery, and raising a child just to get out of working. That’s just not something a rational person would do, I think. 

 

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@MrsCarnival:  yup, and I wasn’t trying to offend anyone from those countries (places like Japan, Germany, France, etc. also beat us by a lot) it’s just those are probably countries most Americans would figure that we have better policies on……….and we don’t. 

Post # 44
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Honey bee

@smartandcute2boot:  Actually, it’s the past 52 weeks of work that they look at and the father can only take paternity leave if the mother gives up her maternity leave.  They can share the 52 weeks.

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@starrynight:  I guess some women are ok with it, but it does not seem like a system that holds what’s best for the mother and baby in high regard.

Post # 45
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

Dad’s are covered under the FMLA, unless both parents work for the same company, in which case they get a combined 12 weeks.

My company is very good about giving dads their up to 12 unpaid weeks.

My husband, who is military, gets two weeks or something, all paid, plus baby watch, based on staffing levels and deployments of course.

ETA: JuliepantsI don’t see forcing women to stay home for a certain about of time as being good for mom or baby.  Shouldn’t we have the choice?  For me, it’s inhumane to NOT let me work.  Sorry – I just take issues with the word inhumane in this case.

Post # 46
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2013 - St. Augustine Beach, FL

I pay for short term disability so that I can get paid 50% of my monthly salary for up to 3 months.  I started paying it as soon as I could afford the $50 per month for just in case we have an accident.  I figure $50 a month is way cheaper than what it would actually cost to save the money myself (I did the calculations for 1 year and 5 years of payments versus the payout when I take the leave.)  Plus, it covers me if I get sick or have an accident that causes me to be out of the office for more than two weeks.  This coupled with FMLA is what will make maternity leave actually doable for me.

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