(Closed) Maternity Leave Laws are Depressing…

posted 10 years ago in Babies
Post # 47
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@Cash000:  

What she said!

The mom OR dad can take the maternity/paternity leave, but I’m not sure BOTH of them can (I believe it has to be either/or). Also, the amount you get paid depends on the amount you were earning before your leave, so if you make crap money you get less in benefits payments, and if you make good money you make more (though, there is a maximum cap on there). And it also depends on your company as well. My company will give me 3 months of maternity leave where they pay the difference between what the government will give me and what I normally earn (so my cheques won’t change for 3 months). After the 3 months I’d be on the government payments alone, upto a period of a year.
My job is guaranteed for when I come back, no matter how long I’m gone (they’ll hire someone on one-year contract to replace me), and my rate of pay will stay the same as when I left. Also, say you had a difficult pregnancy and your doctor ordered you on bed rest, you could take an extra leave separate from your maternity leave. I have a friend who this happened to and she took a short-term disability leave from her job for the last 10 weeks of her pregnancy, and THEN rolled into her maternity leave once she had the baby. So she will technically get the entire 62 weeks off on leave, and will have been paid EI benefits payments through the entire thing. I think she gets something like $1800 a month from the government – so less than she was making, but enough.

Post # 51
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 1969

Yeah – this kills me. I have to take all of my accrued sick and vacation time, and if that’s not enough to cover the 12 weeks under FMLA, I have to take the remainder unpaid. Oh, and I come back with a baby but sick/vacation time.

Family values my ass. Be honest, politicians. You value business much more than you value families.

Post # 52
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2013 - St. Augustine Beach, FL

@MrsPuddingface:  As long as you don’t work for the same company both mom and dad can use FMLA.  Some parents do mom’s first and then dad’s or if your offices are really cool you could both work some sort of modified schedule for the FMLA period so you could both take turns being off each week or month.

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@MrsCarnival:  Most places will allow for you to elect short term disability at any time since it’s usually offered through a third party insurance broker.  Check on it ASAP though because you usually have to have made 12 months worth of payments before you can use it for maternity leave (i.e. can’t TTC for 3-6 months once you start making payments to make sure you don’t deliver before the 12 month cut off.)  But usually you want to cross that 12 months right around the time you get pregnant to make sure you can use it for bedrest if G*d forbid you need it during the pregnancy.

Post # 53
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

@beachbride1216:  I have that too but our FMLA pays the same and I dont have to pay anything, I am keeping my short term disability benefits until I really need them incase I have to take extra time off that FMLA wont pay for. 

Post # 54
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2013 - St. Augustine Beach, FL

If you ahve paid FMLA bravo!  Do they need an employment law attorney?

Post # 55
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2009

@AprilJo2011:  This happens in America, too.  FMLA only requires employers to give you an “equivalent” position when returning from leave, which means you may be forced to switch shifts, departments, job duties, etc.. after you come back to work.  And a lot of employers DO discriminate against pregnant women and mothers, especially in certain fields like finance, politics, and high-level managerial postions.  It might not be as easy here, since women don’t include things like marital status, number of children, etc… like they do in Germany, but it happens often enough.

Post # 56
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Blushing bee

@MrsCarnival:  Are you researching within your company, or just the minimum laws? Many companies choose to offer more than the law requires of them. If you’ve only been googling the laws, please check your employee handbook or talk with your HR department before despairing!

Post # 57
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Honey bee

@starrynight:  No problem – sorry if my word choice offended you.  I still stand by it because to me it seems a bit inhumane.

Of course women in Canada have the choice and are not forced to stay home.  Maternity benefits are an option and women don’t even have to apply for them.  They may also return to work at any point and simply forfeit the rest of their benefits.

Post # 58
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2013 - St. Augustine Beach, FL

@QuietOne:  This is very good advice.  At my office a lot of women are able to stretch out their maternity leave to 6 months (yes six!) by using a few extra loopholes in the employee handbook.  They use FMLA for the first 3 months and then leave without pay (LWOP) for the second three.  This is after they bump up their short term disability to cover six months (which is what I plan to do once we decide to actively TTC.)

Post # 59
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

Just wanted to comment on the few comments made about other countries and expecting the US to be further ahead in terms of mat leave than those ‘developing’ nations. I lived in what is considered a developing nation but I personally don’t think it’s a fair description. I would say that the standard of living in some of the places mentioned is as good if not better as it is in the US and Canada.

The biggest difference is the focus on social policy that benefits the community as a whole and not the individual. In Canada, our maternity and paternity leave is better but there are still so many things that could improve. I don’t think we need more mat leave but sometimes I wish all the provinces were more like Quebece where daycare is subsidized even more!

When my cousin (in Bosnia) had her little boy she got a year of mat leave and then she worked part time for another 6 months (she wanted the full pay). Even then, she always had tons of support from aunts, her mother in law, cousins etc. She couldn’t do it all on her own! Her Mother-In-Law would come over to make dinner and clean up her house.

I think this is the second component to it. In Canada & the US a lot of us take pride in being independent and doing things on our own. There is no shame in asking for help and in letting the ‘village’ raise your child. It’s awesome. I loved spending time with all of my extended family growing up! My mom knew she always had someone to trust to leave us with and vice versa!

Post # 61
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

@mrskrumpet:  Wow a year??? That is insane. I’m moving to Canada. Vancouver isn’t that far!

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