Post # 1
Someone who intentionally walks into a crowded area and opens fire is not a “shooter” – we need to start calling these individuals what they are: A Murderer. A Killer.
We need to stop this forgiveness of Murderers that we so often hear.
It has to stop being known as “a terrible tragedy.” No – a terrible tragedy is when someone is killed by a drunk driver. A mass murder spree is NOT the normal. And yet is has become the normal. It needs to called a Mass Murder.
When so many of these Murderers kill themself in the end before being able to experience the massive amount of grief they bestow by their actions, they need to be remembered as Murderers and Cowards and Sick Individuals.
Please Media:::::: Change your language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The next ‘Shooter’ in line is waiting for his glory moment of going out like some sick badge of honour “Shooter” who will be “forgiven” for their actions.
No. We need to put out the message that anyone who commits Mass Murder will be remembered as a Sick Killer; A Murderer; A Coward; and will NOT be forgiven. They will die with blood on their hands and be forgotton like the piece of trash they are.
Post # 4
@Sunshine09: i second this!!!! You are totally right!
Post # 5
I think the trouble is, in order to call someone a murderer, there has to be a trail first. If someone shoots someone else, they are not automatically considered a murderer.
I’m just trying to explain why the media uses language like that. I totally agree with what you are saying.
Post # 6
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+1, plus so little is known when the story first comes out. I don’t think anyone is forgiving Adam Lanza, do you think they’re forgiving him by saying it may be attributed to a mental illness?
Like you said, a mass murder is not the normal so something is wrong here.
Post # 7
There is also an issue of assigning guilt. In this case, it was clear cut. But there is the possibility that the shooter’s identity is unknown, or that the victims’ status (dead or alive) is unknown. With our criminal justice system of “innocent until proven guilty,” it’s difficult to call someone a murderer without the justice system saying it. Newspapers that do can be later sued for libel. Like they probably will be, since they misidentified the “shooter” as the brother of the actual killer. You also can’t call someone a “mass murderer” if you can’t confirm death, and that clear announcement by a medical examiner/doctor doesn’t come until sometimes hours later. (Sometimes, in this case, it seemed to come quickly.)
I completely get what you’re saying, and think that there needs to be an overhaul of the terminology, but you’ll run into some legal snafus on some less-clear cut cases.
Post # 8
I agree. I don’t believe that anyone is forgiving him. Offering an explanation of why behvior occurs =/= forgiveness. I also don’t believe that changing the language from “shooter” to anything else is going to change anything. I don’t believe identifying someone as a “shooter” is any more or less glorifying than “murderer” or whatnot.
Post # 9
I think people need to stop discussing this individual and giving him the eternal infamy and fame he’s getting.
Post # 10
A lot of times, in general, you hear families of victims of these types of crimes in fact saying that they have no ‘ill will’ towards ‘the shooter.’ People tend to forgive for their own peace of mind. It’s a survival tactic for those trying to make sense of such unthinkable acts of horror. But, I think this sends out the wrong message.
Post # 11
I totally agree with the fact that they need to be called what they are, murderers. But I don’t think there is anything wrong with forgiving them. Forgiveness isn’t saying that what they did is okay. It means that you can move on and not have hate in your life. I know a lot of people don’t agree with that but I, personally, have to forgive people. No matter the situation, forgiveness has everything to do with your heart. The killer doesn’t care if they are hated, not forgiving them doesnt do anythign to them. If they cared they wouldn’t kill people to begin with.
Post # 12
I believe they do this to try to make themselves get over the tragedy easier. Harboring hatred makes you a hateful person, a lot of the time. It’s very noble when people can get over the hatred to focus on the hurt. Did you know most of the families of 9/11 victims did not support the death penalty for the 22nd hijacker? A person’s capacity to forgive is a true mark of dignity and grace (IMO).