Post # 1
So awhile ago, we voted to have a more lax system of moderation, in favor of a more open community here at The ‘Bee. I was one of the people that voted for this! I thought great, we all won’t have to be so sugar coated!
But egad ladies, we have really been showing our true colors lately! It’s been like a cat fight in some threads!
I feel like maybe we can reopen the discussion about how we feel about moderation. I still think Weddingbee should be an open place. But I think it would be awesome if we could have some sort of “democratic moderation”. Like, an option to flag a thread, as an agreed upon was of shutting down a thread.
I remember the first time a thread got out of control after the new moderation guidelines and MrBee was like, sorry ladies, you asked for hands off. I think that maybe we should reconsider because after all,
And we don’t want the Bee to turn into you know… The-Place-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Post # 3
Honestly, I will use any reason to put up some LOLCATS on the interwebs.
Post # 4
Moderation is required in any community. I don’t see why anyone would want the adm’s to just sit back and let hell break loose. When there are no set rules in place, folks don’t know what to do.
I think mods should only step in when bees start to attack each other or if something is really offensive like someone starting a racist topic or someone being degrading.
ETA: I’m sorry! I had to vote elephants!
Post # 5
I’m in favour of some moderation. Some of these threads get out of control and its discouraging.
Post # 6
I agree. I stepped back from WB for a few days for that very reason. Things seemed to be getting a little out of control and it wasn’t fun anymore.
Post # 7
I agree with Miss Tattoo–moderation concerning personal attacks and the like.
BUT I have to say that I do consider this a nice, intelligent site and I’m happy to post on it as is. I’ve rarely seen anyone be outright rude on it. That said, I have seen some heated discussions and I like that. I think it’s fine for people to be passionate about their different points of view so long as they can express them in a cogent way. I’d hate to see things become TOO lilly-fragile.
Post # 8
I am totally in favor. I’ve seen some extreme rudeness and cattiness; despite flagging posts for blatantly violating the CoC, I haven’t seen anything done about it. Every day, I see threads that remind me more and more of, well, you know. And it makes me sad, as well as just plain pisses me off. I joined the Bee to get away from that, and now there are a select few people who are just bringing the childishness and snarkiness here.
Post # 9
I don’t think adults need their hands slapped to behave, and it has become refreshing to see how well some threads work them selves out. The few times some of the loonies got out of hand and threads were closed were mostly brought on by the OP’s themselves anyway.
I like it as it is now. I personally hate when someone jumps in and hands out those little reminders about being nice.
Post # 10
i guess i feel a little bit differently than most posters, but i don’t necessarily believe more moderation is a good thing.
i think more moderation may be needed when posts attack others, spew hate and are irrelevant to the topic—these things DO happen a lot on weddingbee.
if you don’t like the topic, don’t respond or don’t read it. don’t respond to posters who are spewing hate–flag them and ignore them. i would hate to see the “controversial threads” go away because people can’t tolerate a heated discussion.
i think more effort to educate members on what types of posts to flag would be a better option.
Post # 11
Just to clarify, @ILikePink is right, there was a decision made on this, but I believe the is still “No personal attacks” meaning, a post will be deleted if and only if a poster directly attacks another member. But comments directed toward a group of people are still technically allowed, and this is where the “debates” usually arise.
Personally, I think it’s pretty clear when I line has been crossed, and whether or not it’s a “personal” attack, attacks of any kind should not be allowed. Petty fights about opinions on all things wedding-related are obnoxious but unfortunately it’s impossible to moderate all of them.
Post # 12
@blondeeebuckeye: Flagging doesn’t seem to do a whole lot, though. I was attacked in one of my own threads (an emotional vent, no less) a while ago and it took longer than I would have liked for it to finally be closed. And even then, there was only a slap on the wrist for some truly horrible things that were said to and about me.
Post # 13
FYI, everyone has the option to flag a post. At the bottom right corner of every post there should be a link that says “Flag,” and if you click it, a box will pop up where you can type in why you’re flagging. If you see a comment that you think violates Weddingbee’s posting guidelines, please do flag it. You can even flag a post for a mundane reason, such as if you accidentally double-posted.
The hostess team does keep an eye on things, and we do respond when the community says things are getting out of control. Some of the heated threads in days of late have been closed to further comments because they violated our policy against personal attacks, and the posts that are specifically in violation within those threads get deleted as well. But we try to respect the wishes of the community as much as possible, so make your wishes known! Thanks to ILikePink for starting this conversation.
Post # 14
I vote for more lolcats on the hive…. heh.
Seriously though… I dunno. I was cool when there was more moderation, it didn’t bug me much because I wasn’t the one getting scolded 🙂
But it doesn’t bother me much now either. Like 1 of every 100 threads spirals downward into crazytown and I either ignore it or watch with amusement. No one HAS to get involved in the drama. And I rather like when someone turns a thread about (honestly can’t even remember) into a thread about ponies and rainbows and jeffrey dahmer. I feel like because most people on the hive are nice we pretty much self moderate enough.
I guess one thing I *would* say though is that along with the lowered moderation (and thus increase in annoying trolly behavior), we also have to accept more self-moderation from hive members. I.e. if someone is being disruptive and someone else tells them to go away… I don’t see a problem with that. On some threads I’ve seen some historically nice hive member tell a trolly member to get off the boards and someone else scold them for “running people off” or whatever. If its going to be the wild wild west we do need to accept that people are going to arm themselves 🙂
Post # 15
@Statutory Grape: well, based on what you said, that makes me wonder what good more moderation would even do. if addressing flagged posts takes forever, it might take a lot of time for “more” moderation.
i guess my biggest issue with more moderation is that things can be so subjective. if the mods don’t like the thread, they could close it or delete it just “because”. unless it spews hate, attacks others, or the posts are irrelevant and the OP asks for it to be closed, i don’t think the mods should be more involved.
p.s….i don’t know why i have such an opinion on this, considering i rarely get invovled in heated threads. i guess you never know what topic might push your buttons! 🙂
ETA: @statuatorygrape–btw, if people personally attacked you, i DO think a mod should have stepped in sooner. i think personal attacks and spewing hate are two areas that moderation SHOULD be heightened.
Post # 16
What bothers me the most is that a few members are repeatedly catty and disrespectful, but nothing is done about it. I think something that would be helpful is that if someone comes into your thread and insults/attacks you, even if it doesn’t directly violate the code of conduct, you should be able to ask them to leave–and flag the post (and have something done about it) if they refuse or get snotty. I’ve abandoned perfectly good threads just because a few people who seem to get a kick out of hating refuse to leave.