(Closed) Moissy/diamonds being "warm" looking: does it matter to you? Why?

posted 5 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2018

It just comes down to personal preference. Why do some people like pink gemstones and others like blue? Why do some people prefer round cuts and others prefer princess?

To answer your question, I prefer white stones because I just don’t like the yellow-ish tinge. To me, the white stone is prettier. My Fiance purchased a colorless diamond for me because he feels the same way.

But there are plenty of other ladies out there who think that a yellow tinge adds a nice depth to the stone and complements their skin tone better. They’d hate a very white stone.

Different strokes for different folks.

Post # 4
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

@Creiddylad:

I received a free pair of small diamond earrings that are an m-n color from my jeweler with a purchase I made. I had never seen a a diamond lower than an ‘I’ grade IRL before. You are always told that yellow (not canary) = BAD Diamond!!!

I have gotta say……warmth in a diamond is stunning!!!! I soo agree with you!!

The only thing I can think of as to why they say yellow tones aren’t good…is to do with skin tone.  White tones tend to look nice on all skin tones….easier to market to the mass population….you can claim they are rare too!!

The yellowish diamonds when put on my italian tan skin looked quite nice….when I put the  warm yellowish diamond earrings on my Fiance (  he’s half filipino & half portuguese)  much darker tone skin – it did not look so nice… My white diamond earrings do look nice on him though!!!

IDK….but I think if more people saw warm colored stones in real life…..they might actually change thier opinion. All I know is I told Fiance I want a M- Z color grade diamond for a RHR one day.

@Creiddylad:  

Post # 5
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

I think it depends on the person. I have a larger stone….good clarity (not enhanced) but the color is a j-k at best. It has both yellow and grey tones. In some light I really love the warmth but in some lights I am not crazy about the color. However, it was the size and setting I wanted and it was a fabulous deal (beacause it wont appeal to everyone) are the same, not all color grades are the same. Not all J’s look the same, so I really think you need to SEE the stone in person in different lights to jus

I was looking at diamonds yesterday duriing a staff meeting and I dont know…the really white ones looked really nice, but I wonder if some of them might have been sims becasue they were SO colorless. Under certain lighting conditions, the smaller very white stones actually looked more blingy than my larger less white stone – lol.

 

Different strokes for different folks. So, to answer your question, I wanted a stone that absolutely could not be mistaken for anything but a  diamond, but mine is a bit warm in some lights for my taste. Just like not all !’s are the same, all J’s look different. You have to see the stone in person. I couldnt answer the 4C’s question becasue I really believe they all come together to make or break a stone for each individual.

PS I am NOT knocking sims….if you read any of my other posts, you would know that I love them also 🙂  i do notice though, that a lot of people who choose sims, choose them in a warmer color (G-H_I)

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper

I like ice cold diamonds, but then again, I like warm ones too. Is that clear? lol!

I prefer very icy (D/E/F), especially against a nice warm metal… the contrast/definition is like “POW!” to my eye, lol! 

BUT, I could also imagine settings for nice warm diamonds (say, M/N/O/P) that would really look fantastic. I really think any color of diamond can look beautiful, it just has to be in the right setting for it.

Post # 7
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Bumble bee

I agree with others that it is all personal preference. don’t like the warmth at all. I realized that very quickly when e-ring shopping. I could notice the slightest bit of yellow. I love my bright white diamond but there are def bees who prefer the warmth!

Post # 9
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2014 - Ontario, Canada ♥ EDD- April 2016

I have an enhanced Moissanite center stone and at first the warmth in that was even hard to deal with. Now I don’t notice it at all and I love my stone, but it took a few months to get used to the warmth. I don’t know why I don’t like warmth, I just don’t 😉 I don’t feel like I need something as white as D/E/F, but I couldn’t imagine being happy with a stone past H (which is what my Moissanite was graded). I think they look beautiful on others, just not on my finger (:

It comes down to personal preference.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2013 - Rustic mill, historical site

I really dont care.   My stone is f colour, but my rings are yellow gold so its not that important to me to have them be really white.   They could be I or j coloured and I wouldnt care.   My stone is only .5 carats too, so the colour wouldnt show up much anyway.

Post # 11
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

I don’t think I can articulate why I dislike warm diamonds/moissanites, I simply do. I prefer whiter stones. Maybe because I’ve been conditioned to associate whiteness with quality. I also hate yellow diamonds and moissanites . . . I do have a specific reason for hating outright yellow stones, but it might be hurtful to Bees who own such stones so I won’t say. :p

Post # 12
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

My diamond is a K, and in some lighting I can see a little yellow in it. It’s not my favorite characteristic of the ring, but it allowed us to go up to a 1.5ct (from 1ct) and the clarity is IF – from what I understand that is particularly important in emerald cuts. In almost all lighting I can’t tell the difference, and in the end we were between two stones and that is what I went with after getting to compare them side by side in various lighting.

People always talk about not sacrificing quality for size of stone. I recognize that my stone would actually be a ‘better’ (more valuable) diamond if it were a better color grade, and if you gave me the choice between it and an identical stone that was a D of course I’d choose the D. However, there is an in between in the size v quality argument and for us we sacrificed what we feel like was very little on color for size and clarity.

Post # 13
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2013

@Creiddylad:  I think it’s about personal preference, and also the way the GIA color scale works leads people to believe that D is the best color (the whitest), and charges a premium for it. It’s a bit of a constructed thing, like many other things in our society.

I prefer my white diamonds to be white… but I am pretty sure I can’t tell the difference between a D and an H. I have H earrings and they look white to me. I prefer my yellow diamonds to be YELLOW… like fancy intense. I guess I’m a bit of a purist. I once saw a lady with a big diamond that was really yellow looking (but not a canary diamond), it didn’t match the rest of the stones in the ring, and just looked cheap to me since I know a bit about how diamonds are graded.

I haven’t seen many warm diamonds in my life… like the J-Z range, and I am not sure I’ve ever seen a moissanite either.

I just like the look of crisper, whiter diamonds better, I guess. I am sure some of it is conditioning by society/media/the diamond industry. If we were told that the ideal diamonds have a yellow tinge, we might look down on the whitest diamonds. Who knows.

Post # 14
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2013

I like warmer colors, I like whiter colors too.  As long as it’s pretty and sparkly.  I’ve seen plenty of J colored stones on here that I think are really pretty and I probably would never have noticed except they posted the color.  They are near-colorless so they look white to me.  It’s only when comparing them to something graded higher that you can even begin to tell (for me).  Haven’t seen many in the K-Z range though…so I suppose it depends on the invidiual stone.

Post # 15
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

I prefer warmed diamonds.  Mine is K colour. 

I just dont like the stark and harsh white looking diamonds. Not sure why.  

Post # 16
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Bee Keeper

@canarydiamond:  Well, I sort of agree… that is, many people’s tastes are strongly affected by what they are told is valuable/best/”the norm” by others (and they usually don’t realize it) …and it’s really impossible for any color on the visible spectrum to be objectively “ugly”.

But, I wanted to say that nobody just came up with having colorless (D) diamonds as being the most costly on the D-Z scale. They are not actually the most costly color – pure stoplight red is the most costly color of natural diamond, because they are the most rare. After that, fancy pinks, blues, etc… (natural ones I mean, not the irradiated ones in the stores these days…those are usually pale yellow naturally). They are all extremely uncommon, and even vivid canary yellow is less common than D colorless, so it commands a higher price, even though it is “yellow” and some of the most affordable diamonds are “yellow” too. The most common natural colors for diamonds are pale yellow, gray, brown, and black, so these are the most affordable. It’s supply-based, in part.

Another part of it is that as a very general rule, people tend like vivid “colors” vs. more muted ones. I say “colors” because bright white is one of them, though it technically isn’t a color. So this is affecting demand.

Next is the fact that some colors tend to be more popular colors than others. Ask someone what their favorite color is, and you’ll hear “blue” many times more than you’ll hear “brown”. Though you will hear “brown” if you ask enough people, and I don’t believe there’s any color that’s universally hated. As for “white”, people don’t often think of it as a “color”, but if you look at the number of white things people tend to purchase, own, and use, it’s not hard to see why bleach is so popular an invention. Demand is affected here too.

So yes… do norms affect what people see as valuable/attractive? Absolutely. It’s not hard to think of many ridiculous trends people have spent good money on, probably even ourselves (just think back to junior high) . But it is hardly the only factor going on in this instance, or even the most substantial.

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